I'm afraid that I see Arwen as neither, bombur. Some of my earlier posts on this very thread should clarify my opinions, but it would help if you could substantiate yours: I can understand the view of Undómiel as a sex object (although it's rather a crude one to take of her and not one of which Tolkien would have approved); but a devious manipulator? Where on earth did that come from?
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