[Iarwain]

I appologize, everyone. Let me try, once again, to explain what I am trying to say. Tolkien said that there was magic in middle earth. He said this in the books and he said it frequently. It is ture then, it has to be true, that there is magic in Middle-Earth, magic, that is, by Tolkien's definition. The word is, however, very loose in definition, and therefore other ideas about the nature of "magic" are possible. When I was responding to you about my use of the word, Burrahobbit, I was not trying to say that Tolkien was wrong, I was just trying to say that my definition may differ from Tolkien's (it differs greatly), and that I am by no means talking as if I am Tolkien or that I am even using his definitions. I'm stuck in a predicament, you see, where everyone around me is taking my use of a single word to mean something that I do not consider it to mean. I'm sure now that none of you will ever be able to understand anything further that I say in this thread, because of the confusion over word usage and definition. It's really too bad...