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goldwine · 03-01-2002, 05:37 PM

Thanks for your thoughtful reply, Kalessin. I am enjoying reading your posts.

I see faith as more than a planted seed, more of a flourishing plant! In the gospel you quoted, Is Jesus is saying that the withered plants are no longer believers?

In terms of a scriptural reflection in LOTR, I have learned much in this thread that other beliefs can be reflected in the story, too. It does get back to the ultimate truth question - and I guess the ultimate truth for Christians is that Jesus is Eternal King! So we may not all agree on what ultimate truth is! Perhaps we are agreeing on elements of temporal truth - realities in our world both spiritual and physical.

I guess, too, that reading other Tolkien writings about his faith I feel that they are reflected in LOTR! (Back to square one!) But, of course, it is just a story - one which has obviously moved our hearts and made us a community - but still a work of fiction!

I hope the thread doesn't get stopped - I don't feel that there is any prosetylizing (?) or nastiness - just people genuinely appreciating each others opinions, and learning a lot. There seem to be lots of other almost off topics that don't get closed.

Keep posting guys!

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goldwine Haunting Spirit Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: South Australia Posts: 64	Thanks for your thoughtful reply, Kalessin. I am enjoying reading your posts. I see faith as more than a planted seed, more of a flourishing plant! In the gospel you quoted, Is Jesus is saying that the withered plants are no longer believers? In terms of a scriptural reflection in LOTR, I have learned much in this thread that other beliefs can be reflected in the story, too. It does get back to the ultimate truth question - and I guess the ultimate truth for Christians is that Jesus is Eternal King! So we may not all agree on what ultimate truth is! Perhaps we are agreeing on elements of temporal truth - realities in our world both spiritual and physical. I guess, too, that reading other Tolkien writings about his faith I feel that they are reflected in LOTR! (Back to square one!) But, of course, it is just a story - one which has obviously moved our hearts and made us a community - but still a work of fiction! I hope the thread doesn't get stopped - I don't feel that there is any prosetylizing (?) or nastiness - just people genuinely appreciating each others opinions, and learning a lot. There seem to be lots of other almost off topics that don't get closed. Keep posting guys! [ March 02, 2002: Message edited by: goldwine ] __________________ 2A Balrog. A demon from the underpants (Gandalf)