Well, Iīm not, but Iīll try anyway [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img].
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Also, do you suppose Elrond could be using the phrase specifically for its double meaning, so it could be interpreted to mean both things which turn out to be true?
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I suppose, that would be right. No mortal died in Eldamar (not by nature anyhow) so Elrond couldnīt know if Bilbo died or not. But he know that he would go into the West so he used the common phrase "long journey". And maybe he didnīt want to scare Frodo.