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**lindil** · 02-16-2001, 02:38 PM

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O-K

Mr Underhill<blockquote>Quote:<hr> I wonder that the elves
didn't establish a sort of mental "internet" that would obviate the need for devices such as the
Palantíri, which must have seemed exceedingly clumsy and inadequate in comparison to this
mode of communication.<hr></blockquote>

I think in other parts of O-K it is implied that for maost incarnates the ability had more or less atrophied so I am not sure just how widespread this would be. I think there are more instances that will reveal themselves t us as we read w/ O-K in mind. as for replacing the palantiri, they also had a visual component-that would have been very useful for militry planning.I don't recall O-K's visual component being mentioned outside of seing and storytelling.

Mr U:"It gives me a whole new perspective on Legolas joining the Fellowship,
and on the general elvish disdain for other races."

Although think the dunedain were able users of O-K especially the rulers.

It must have been tough for Legolas to leave
a community where such an intimate level of relationship was available to travel with a bunch of
(comparatively) lower beings.
Well, aragorn and Gandalf were not as my Dad would say 'all that shabby' but I see what you mean.
Actually Legolasdevelopedsuch love and respectt for Aragorn that he removes w/ some of his friends from Greenwood to Ithilien. A rather unprecedented thing, That Elves should move to have closer association with men.
although it is intimated that Ost - in -Edhil was close ot Moria for strategic purposes . Legolas actions seems to me to be somehow even above that.

Mr. U.:"But then again, if distance is no object, would Legolas ever really
be "gone" from that community?- I seem to recall that Legolas never really needed sleep and
was always up by himself keeping watch while the others slept. Can't remember if that's
accurate, but if it is, could he have been doing the equivalent of logging on to the Elvish Chat
Room during his off hours to catch up with friends and relatives?"
I do recall him mentioning that elvish resting was a meditative 'memory house' if you will. But I can not think of anything that suggests O-K in his travels w/ Aragorn and Gimili.

Fascinating... My sáma is
spinning! Are the elves in Valinor able to communicate this freely with their kinsmen in
Middle-earth?
Don't know. Maybe the Palantir helped. I seem to recall that the P. was the object of the pilgrimage in 'The Road Goes Ever On'

I hope o reread the whole thing in a day or so.
To me the exciting implications are in 'real time' more than ME.

but as the blind man said 'we shall see'.

lindil

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02-16-2001, 02:38 PM	#7
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 408</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> O-K Mr Underhill<blockquote>*Quote:<hr> I wonder that the elves didn't establish a sort of mental "internet" that would obviate the need for devices such as the Palantíri, which must have seemed exceedingly clumsy and inadequate in comparison to this mode of communication.<hr></blockquote> I think in other parts of O-K it is implied that for maost incarnates the ability had more or less atrophied so I am not sure just how widespread this would be. I think there are more instances that will reveal themselves t us as we read w/ O-K in mind. as for replacing the palantiri, they also had a visual component-that would have been very useful for militry planning.I don't recall O-K's visual component being mentioned outside of seing and storytelling. Mr U:"It gives me a whole new perspective on Legolas joining the Fellowship, and on the general elvish disdain for other races." Although think the dunedain were able users of O-K especially the rulers. It must have been tough for Legolas to leave a community where such an intimate level of relationship was available to travel with a bunch of (comparatively) lower beings. Well, aragorn and Gandalf were not as my Dad would say 'all that shabby' but I see what you mean. Actually Legolasdevelopedsuch love and respectt for Aragorn that he removes w/ some of his friends from Greenwood to Ithilien. A rather unprecedented thing, That Elves should move to have closer* association with men. although it is intimated that Ost - in -Edhil was close ot Moria for strategic purposes . Legolas actions seems to me to be somehow even above that. Mr. U.:"But then again, if distance is no object, would Legolas ever really be "gone" from that community?- I seem to recall that Legolas never really needed sleep and was always up by himself keeping watch while the others slept. Can't remember if that's accurate, but if it is, could he have been doing the equivalent of logging on to the Elvish Chat Room during his off hours to catch up with friends and relatives?" I do recall him mentioning that elvish resting was a meditative 'memory house' if you will. But I can not think of anything that suggests O-K in his travels w/ Aragorn and Gimili. Fascinating... My sáma is spinning! Are the elves in Valinor able to communicate this freely with their kinsmen in Middle-earth? Don't know. Maybe the Palantir helped. I seem to recall that the P. was the object of the pilgrimage in 'The Road Goes Ever On' I hope o reread the whole thing in a day or so. To me the exciting implications are in 'real time' more than ME. but as the blind man said 'we shall see'. lindil </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.