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Thingol · 06-26-2002, 10:10 PM

There are several instances in the Lord of the Rings were orcs and especially trolls are referred to as creatures. At some point Sauron’s servants and the Balrog must have met. Over 500 years does pass between Sauron populating Moria with his creatures and the Fellowship entering Moria. It is certainly possible that the orcs and trolls of Moria were not loyal to Sauron at the time of the Lord of the Rings, but I'd say it is equally as likely that they were. I don't see why the Balrog would have any objections to Sauron's creatures cohabiting with him. The Balrog wouldn't necessarily be under Sauron's control, he could just be cooperating. After all, why antagonize someone like Sauron?

[ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: Thingol ]

06-26-2002, 10:10 PM	#69
Thingol Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, New York Posts: 259	There are several instances in the Lord of the Rings were orcs and especially trolls are referred to as creatures. At some point Sauron’s servants and the Balrog must have met. Over 500 years does pass between Sauron populating Moria with his creatures and the Fellowship entering Moria. It is certainly possible that the orcs and trolls of Moria were not loyal to Sauron at the time of the Lord of the Rings, but I'd say it is equally as likely that they were. I don't see why the Balrog would have any objections to Sauron's creatures cohabiting with him. The Balrog wouldn't necessarily be under Sauron's control, he could just be cooperating. After all, why antagonize someone like Sauron? [ June 27, 2002: Message edited by: Thingol ] __________________ Yet the lies that Melkor, the mighty and accursed, Morgoth Bauglir, the Power of Terror and of Hate, sowed in the hearts of Elves and Men are a seed that does not die and cannot be destroyed; and ever and anon it sprouts anew, and will bear dark fruit even unto the latest days.