Helen and Bird---
Regarding flood:BTW, I assume the hobbits are not told that there's going to be a flood. Is that a 'secret'? One would think so.
Dragons: The idea of a dragon ambush is right if the rescue is done at the last minute when Sauron can do little to respond. The hobbits can get on the dragon's back to fly off. In fact it reinforces our idea later of the two dragons destroying all evidence so Sauron has less idea of what actually happened. Is this a week before the drowning of Numenor? I assume Sauron will keep looking for dragons after we leave.
BTW, To reinforce the image of a dragon attack, shouldn't Angara and Bird do a flying sweep overhead before the actual invasion begins? Then they would go back to their "assignments"
Who's being sacrificed? Gamba and Azraph would be alright as sacrifices, but isn't Gamba too young? Helen-- I thought you told me once that they weren't taking kids. Actually, I don't see why they wouldn't get rid of kids. In modern times, in camps like these, the young and old are first to go.
One wonders why they would have let a little thing like Maura live. i.e. He just eats and doesn't produce. However, it's possible that they aren't as organized or thorough as we would be today. Or that the guards get a 'kick' out of random terror so nobody knows from one minute to the next what's going on. (Maybe the latter?)
Locks: The Locks scene is no problem without Gamba. It will put extra pressure on Daisy and Anee as the person leading the whole thing (Gamba) is suddenly unavailable. It will also open up the scene for Kali. I assume Bird/Daisy would get a message through somehow as the front ship lands, and tell them Gamba's been seized and the Locks needs extra help FAST. That would be Kali's clue--perhaps with a few of the hobbrim as well.
Men in prison--Major concern in story The whole situation of the men in prison bothers me. There are several problems here. First, we have to cover our tracks in such a way that Sauron will not realize it's a 'hobbrim' rescue. He thinks it's a general prison break. Just what does that involve?
How close is the Man prison to the hobbit prison? This question will make a big difference in how we handle things. Are the men near the hobbits or separate?
Imagine what Mith is going to be thinking. As he fights, he's going to realize every Man in there is doomed, whether or not the man gets out of prison. And you have to assume that a number of the men incarcerated are the Faithful. Ouch, that hurts!!
In fact none of us should be feeling too good about that! Don't you think this is going to begin to bother some of the folk on the Star--Mith especially, but even Pio and Cami. Do you think Mith or Pio would ever raise these questions with Idril? Remember at the beginning of the tale Cami had a dream that this quest would be painful because there would be many, many things we can't fix on our own:
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The dream....the vision said if we tangle with the web of time, we may pull a thread we do not know. And we must guard against that, even if we see great sadness which we wish to correct. For some sadness is woven into the world by the Valar and Eru. And it must be so.
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Does this need to be dealt with in the story on some level? i.e. reflection and soul searching.
Contact with men: Given this scenario, how can we have any contact with the Men? Screaming and running away sounds good. Infact, I think we could assume that, given the tumult of the rescue, many Men would take advantage of the chaos to run off. Do we do anything to help that along, or not?
sharon
[ October 12, 2002: Message edited by: Child of the 7th Age ]