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***Mithadan*** · 02-12-2001, 08:58 AM

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Just a few thoughts. The Ring is a thing, it has no will of its own and does not act on its own behalf. It is a band of metal infused with a great part of Sauron's power so that it can be used by Sauron for the purposes for which it was created. These purposes are to control the wills of others and to corrupt, just as Sauron was corrupt. It is altogether evil and cannot be used for good. Even if the wearer intends to do good, the wearer will be corrupted. As a side effect, intended or no, it grants its wearer "invisibility", or more accurately it partially removes the wearer from the physical plane.

The Ring is Sauron's. It belongs to no other and the extent to which another may use it depends on the bearer's native strength. Gollum, Bilbo, Frodo and Sam are not strong enough to use it to control the wills of others, though Frodo begins to head in that direction as the Ring takes hold. But the Ring still has its power to corrupt. Thus Gollum, being mean spirited from the beginning and having held it for a long time is greatly corrupted. Bilbo, Frodo and Sam are "innocents" and are basically good and are less affected. With Gollum the Ring's corruption and its power to dominate manifest in the desire for revenge; it gives him power or desire to his own slight measure. Sam, being more good natured, fantasizes about making the world into a garden. Galadriel, a greater power possibly capable of weilding it but not possessing it feels its corruption, and would be a queen, beautiful and terrible. With Gandalf, it works on his desire to set things right. Boromir, a captain, would become a great captain and lord over men. Frodo? We do not know. He must have suffered greatly resisting the influence of the Ring.

Even away from his hand, the Ring is Sauron's and his will can affect it. Thus when he begins to regain his power and extends his will, the Ring responds to Sauron's will because he is seeking it, but it has no will of its own. It falls from Gollum's hand in the caverns. When Bilbo reaches the back door of the Goblin's halls it slips off. Bilbo must put it on a chain so it cannot get away. The Ringwraiths, being extensions of Sauron's will and linked to the Ring can call out to it and the result is a desire to put it on as in Morgul Vale and on Weathertop. Similarly, in Bree, both the Ringwraiths and Sauron are calling to it so it slips on during Frodo's song.

--Mithadan--
"The Silmarils with living light
were kindled clear, and waxing bright
shone like stars that in the North
above the reek of earth leap forth." </p>

02-12-2001, 08:58 AM	#50
*Mithadan* Spirit of Mist Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Tol Eressea Posts: 3,394	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of Mist Posts: 590</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Heehee Just a few thoughts. The Ring is a thing, it has no will of its own and does not act on its own behalf. It is a band of metal infused with a great part of Sauron's power so that it can be used by Sauron for the purposes for which it was created. These purposes are to control the wills of others and to corrupt, just as Sauron was corrupt. It is altogether evil and cannot be used for good. Even if the wearer intends to do good, the wearer will be corrupted. As a side effect, intended or no, it grants its wearer "invisibility", or more accurately it partially removes the wearer from the physical plane. The Ring is Sauron's. It belongs to no other and the extent to which another may use it depends on the bearer's native strength. Gollum, Bilbo, Frodo and Sam are not strong enough to use it to control the wills of others, though Frodo begins to head in that direction as the Ring takes hold. But the Ring still has its power to corrupt. Thus Gollum, being mean spirited from the beginning and having held it for a long time is greatly corrupted. Bilbo, Frodo and Sam are "innocents" and are basically good and are less affected. With Gollum the Ring's corruption and its power to dominate manifest in the desire for revenge; it gives him power or desire to his own slight measure. Sam, being more good natured, fantasizes about making the world into a garden. Galadriel, a greater power possibly capable of weilding it but not possessing it feels its corruption, and would be a queen, beautiful and terrible. With Gandalf, it works on his desire to set things right. Boromir, a captain, would become a great captain and lord over men. Frodo? We do not know. He must have suffered greatly resisting the influence of the Ring. Even away from his hand, the Ring is Sauron's and his will can affect it. Thus when he begins to regain his power and extends his will, the Ring responds to Sauron's will because he is seeking it, but it has no will of its own. It falls from Gollum's hand in the caverns. When Bilbo reaches the back door of the Goblin's halls it slips off. Bilbo must put it on a chain so it cannot get away. The Ringwraiths, being extensions of Sauron's will and linked to the Ring can call out to it and the result is a desire to put it on as in Morgul Vale and on Weathertop. Similarly, in Bree, both the Ringwraiths and Sauron are calling to it so it slips on during Frodo's song. --Mithadan-- "The Silmarils with living light were kindled clear, and waxing bright shone like stars that in the North above the reek of earth leap forth." </p> __________________ Beleriand, Beleriand, the borders of the Elven-land.