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Old 02-09-2001, 08:13 PM   #13
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Re: Gollum

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> If, (as shown by the quote from Z) the Ring 'started' on it's 'owner' immediately, then why didn't he take revenge on his family who had beat him then, rather then going into hiding?<hr></blockquote>
Because the effect of the Ring isn't an immediate 'deletion' of its bearer's will. At that stage Gollum hadn't grown in his motive (or the Ring's motive) to get revenge (well actually, the Ring wanted Gollum to think he was getting revenge, whilst really serving Saron).

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Note also that when Bilbo let go of the Ring and it passed to Frodo he felt instantly better (It's 11 and I couldn't be bothered getting the quote) so why did Gollum, when he lost his ring, continue his quest for it?<hr></blockquote>
Because it wasn't the 'losing' of the Ring that stopped its long-lasting power so much as giving it away and saying &quot;I want my own will&quot;. Also, when Frodo met Bilbo at Rivendell, Bilbo seemed pretty keen to see the Ring again. In fact, to Frodo he temporarily seemed to become Gollum-like. (See: Many Meetings, FotR.)

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> That he hated the Ring, everything it stood for, and just about everything else. The Ring did not drive him to search for it, he did that of his own will.<hr></blockquote>
Why did he search for something he hated, and yet didn't want to destroy it, if it wasn't still driving him on? Surely the Ring realised that Frodo was planning to destroy it, and having the beaten-down Gollum following around as a back-up plan was a good idea.

NB: When I say &quot;The Ring&quot;, really I mean &quot;Sauron through the Ring&quot;. Perhaps my theories would make more sense that way.

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