It just seems to me here, in this post that many people are assuming that Sauron controls all the orcs in ME.. that they are his servants. This is NOT the case; Morgoth bred them, Sauron continues to breed them but not all orcs are around on errands of the dark-lord... they had their own colonies, their own cities... they have their own lives, especiially when Sauron was diminished. The survivors of the Last Alliance would have fled, and like gollum would of searched for somewhere dark and safe to continue their nasty lives. Gundabad had been an orc stronghold for years, and the orcs of moria were certainly not under direct orders from Sauron. The misty mountains in general were a haven for orcs and goblins, and their tunnel cities were littered all the way up and down the range. Remember that part of the force that Sauron sends to rohan is made up of the northern goblins... he sends envoys calling them all to arms, promises plunder and they all flock to him... hoping to get back with loot and plunder to their strongholds once they've had some fun. Remember the conversation between the orc captains up on cirith ungol, speaking of "getting a few good lads together and starting over once this is all finished."
Sauron didnt say; "You orcs... go retake moria... you orcs go plague the passes."
They were already there... it was good for him to have these obstacles to plague his northern enemies.
In closing; perhaps initially these orcs were sent to these places... but after about 30 years they'd be pretty self suffient, with their own chieftans etc. they would have thought themselves independent; nothing to do with morder, somehting they'd escaped.
Regards to all, every man and his dog.
Osse
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