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**lindil** · 01-16-2003, 09:21 AM

Inderjit, a good topic [ and a truly NEW one too, I think].

As for The Silmarillion , putting the LotR in perspective, it does, with Characters and much else.

Sauron Compared to Morgoth for instance.

I think it raises the stature of galadriel and Elrond , to see how open they were compared to the Elves of Nargothrond, Gondolin or Feanor's folks.

although one really needs RGEO and especially UT to get the bigger view of galadriel.

But While Beren's quest in some respects dwarfs Aragorns [ in other senses I would say it does not] it also shows greater strengths, Aragorn had to be extremely patient over a time period greater than that of any Silm mortal [ not counting dwarves]. His was no suicide mission, but life that had to be lived with skill, grit and hope [ estel, his name being rightly given in many ways].

Their simply is no tragedy comparable to Turin's [ and his family] in the LotR although again UT is needed to give the big picture.

The Silm certainly puts Gandalf anf Saruman in perspective, and the Akallabeth and of the Rings of Power also help us to understand Gondor and Arnor better.

But as all things were continually dimishing in M-E I never thought to comapare too much the differences of the 'levels of being' of the earlier 1st age Elves and those of the late 3rd Age.

as for not wanting to re-read the Silm, hmmm, I suppose I 'enjoy' the LotR more than the Silmarillion per se, but not more than the expanded versions of some of it, available in HoME 10-12 and UT.
But I have probably re-read the entire LotR more. With the Silm and co. I go more for clusters of chapters. I recently read the 'complete' Narn incorporating the Silm material into the UT. And i Might read abot the period of the Noldor in valinor, or the Akkalabeth.

In short I find it more profitablt to not try and take in to many different scenarios [ Valinor, Creation, Ilmarin, Beleriand, Numenor etc,] of the Silm at once.

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-lindil

[ January 16, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ]

01-16-2003, 09:21 AM	#2
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Inderjit, a good topic [ and a truly NEW one too, I think]. As for The Silmarillion , putting the LotR in perspective, it does, with Characters and much else. Sauron Compared to Morgoth for instance. I think it raises the stature of galadriel and Elrond , to see how open they were compared to the Elves of Nargothrond, Gondolin or Feanor's folks. although one really needs RGEO and especially UT to get the bigger view of galadriel. But While Beren's quest in some respects dwarfs Aragorns [ in other senses I would say it does not] it also shows greater strengths, Aragorn had to be extremely patient over a time period greater than that of any Silm mortal [ not counting dwarves]. His was no suicide mission, but life that had to be lived with skill, grit and hope [ estel, his name being rightly given in many ways]. Their simply is no tragedy comparable to Turin's [ and his family] in the LotR although again UT is needed to give the big picture. The Silm certainly puts Gandalf anf Saruman in perspective, and the Akallabeth and of the Rings of Power also help us to understand Gondor and Arnor better. But as all things were continually dimishing in M-E I never thought to comapare too much the differences of the 'levels of being' of the earlier 1st age Elves and those of the late 3rd Age. as for not wanting to re-read the Silm, hmmm, I suppose I 'enjoy' the LotR more than the Silmarillion per se, but not more than the expanded versions of some of it, available in HoME 10-12 and UT. But I have probably re-read the entire LotR more. With the Silm and co. I go more for clusters of chapters. I recently read the 'complete' Narn incorporating the Silm material into the UT. And i Might read abot the period of the Noldor in valinor, or the Akkalabeth. In short I find it more profitablt to not try and take in to many different scenarios [ Valinor, Creation, Ilmarin, Beleriand, Numenor etc,] of the Silm at once. Eruhen note the absence of any advertisements [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] -lindil [ January 16, 2003: Message edited by: lindil ] __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.