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**lindil** · 01-14-2003, 01:43 PM

Glorfindel of Gondolin almost certainly saw the Tree's as he was a lord of Gondolin.

The Noldor in Gondolin would be unlikely to have attained such stature if he was born in M-E.

As regards High-Elves and Kalaquendi, [I look at it this way although I am not sure if JRRT wrote anything definitive on it] they could have been said to be synonomous unti the Noldor began giving birth in M-E, then their descendants were still High Elves [ due to Noldorin culture one could say] but they were not Kalaquendi, not having seen the light of the trees.

01-14-2003, 01:43 PM	#18
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	Glorfindel of Gondolin almost certainly saw the Tree's as he was a lord of Gondolin. The Noldor in Gondolin would be unlikely to have attained such stature if he was born in M-E. As regards High-Elves and Kalaquendi, [I look at it this way although I am not sure if JRRT wrote anything definitive on it] they could have been said to be synonomous unti the Noldor began giving birth in M-E, then their descendants were still High Elves [ due to Noldorin culture one could say] but they were not Kalaquendi, not having seen the light of the trees. __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.