I think what Voronwe meant is not to listen to anyone unless they're backing up what they say with quotes from the father and son.
In the years when the world was young, Tar Elenion owned Michael Martinez.
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...c&f=1&t=000542
http://forum.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin...=1&t=000538&p=
[ January 09, 2003: Message edited by: Legalos ]