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Tarthang · 06-25-2002, 05:45 PM

This is in response to one of Thingol's earlier postings in this thread.

I just finished The Lost Road (HoME 5) and vividly recall the quote mentioning Hosts of Balrogs. I also recall one of the versions given has some of the Balrogs ran and hid, thus escaping the War of Wrath. (Which by the way was led by Fionwe, son of Manwe, in these versions to put to rest the Maia, Vala having offspring issue to rest).
I haven't read Morgoth's Ring (HoME 10) yet, so I don't know where this notation of 3 to 7 Balrogs comes into play. Therefore, I could interpret these numbers to mean a refernce to the numbers of Balrogs who fled, going on what I've read from The Lost Road and what I'm seeing here.
I've alway's interpreted any fallen Maia as being a Balrog. I don't know if JRRT ever addressed what exactly quantified a Balrog either, so even a lesser fallen Maia is a Balrog (if not as powerful as say Gothmog). So perhaps we should define exactly what qualifies a fallen Maia to have Balrog status.

06-25-2002, 05:45 PM	#29
Tarthang Wight Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Paths of the Dead Posts: 108	This is in response to one of Thingol's earlier postings in this thread. I just finished The Lost Road (HoME 5) and vividly recall the quote mentioning Hosts of Balrogs. I also recall one of the versions given has some of the Balrogs ran and hid, thus escaping the War of Wrath. (Which by the way was led by Fionwe, son of Manwe, in these versions to put to rest the Maia, Vala having offspring issue to rest). I haven't read Morgoth's Ring (HoME 10) yet, so I don't know where this notation of 3 to 7 Balrogs comes into play. Therefore, I could interpret these numbers to mean a refernce to the numbers of Balrogs who fled, going on what I've read from The Lost Road and what I'm seeing here. I've alway's interpreted any fallen Maia as being a Balrog. I don't know if JRRT ever addressed what exactly quantified a Balrog either, so even a lesser fallen Maia is a Balrog (if not as powerful as say Gothmog). So perhaps we should define exactly what qualifies a fallen Maia to have Balrog status.