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antoine2 · 02-16-2003, 05:13 AM

hi,

I think it s important to remenber that we don t try to write a modern version of the Silmarillion.
The Silmarillion exist : it s the book of Christopher Tolkien.

But our project is to write "Translation from the Elvish".
A compilation from Bilbo Baggins, wrote in Imladris of Elder Tales.

Our decision should be the decision of Bilbo when he was in the home of Elrond.

Tolkien wrote 6 versions of Ainulindale (BOLT version, A, B, C , D version + C* version).
If the last version use some reference to some writer or to some discussion, why change ? it s the last choice of Tolkien.

I think it s wrong to think that Ainulindale is not Numenorean.
A myth of creation, without Sun and Moon, and with Lamps is definitively human.

So,
I vote to eliminate Aelfwine. (cf Lindil and Co explanation that i follow)
But i vote to not eliminate Eressëa.

I propose:

The Music of the Ainur
This was made by Rúmil of Túna in the Elder Days. It is here written as it was spoken in Eressëa {to Ælfwine} by Pengoloð the Sage. To it are added the further words that Pengoloð {spoke} [wrote] at that time concerning the Valar, the Eldar and the Atani; of which more is said thereafter.

02-16-2003, 05:13 AM	#1
antoine2 Animated Skeleton Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 41	hi, I think it s important to remenber that we don t try to write a modern version of the Silmarillion. The Silmarillion exist : it s the book of Christopher Tolkien. But our project is to write "Translation from the Elvish". A compilation from Bilbo Baggins, wrote in Imladris of Elder Tales. Our decision should be the decision of Bilbo when he was in the home of Elrond. Tolkien wrote 6 versions of Ainulindale (BOLT version, A, B, C , D version + C* version). If the last version use some reference to some writer or to some discussion, why change ? it s the last choice of Tolkien. I think it s wrong to think that Ainulindale is not Numenorean. A myth of creation, without Sun and Moon, and with Lamps is definitively human. So, I vote to eliminate Aelfwine. (cf Lindil and Co explanation that i follow) But i vote to not eliminate Eressëa. I propose: The Music of the Ainur This was made by Rúmil of Túna in the Elder Days. It is here written as it was spoken in Eressëa {to Ælfwine} by Pengoloð the Sage. To it are added the further words that Pengoloð {spoke} [wrote] at that time concerning the Valar, the Eldar and the Atani; of which more is said thereafter.