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Re: Orcish Fear
Ancalagon is gone. The prophecy of the Old Hope replaces the events you are thinking of. Ancalagon and Turin have no place in the reconstruction. I didn't say Ancalagon didn't exist, I said he's gone (in the respect he's being used for in the prophecy).
I'm aware of what Aurvandel's toe signifies. (Orion's foot.... toe)
My bad on North star. Don't know 'that' much on Astronomy. Did go look.
Ok, North star=Polaris.
Evening star=Venus
Tolkien was fully aware of Aurvandel's toe and it's significance and placement, yet the name of Venus in Elvish is Earendel/Earendil.
Taken from MORGOTH'S RING (star names)
Elemmire---Mercury
Earendil----Venus
Arda-------Earth
Karnil------Mars
Lumbar----Saturn
Alkarinque-Jupiter
Nenar-----Uranus
Luinil------Neptune
Note: Christopher mentions that Tolkien did not create names for the Evening Star or Pluto.
But the Evening Star is equivalent to Venus, and named as a planet in the same text.
This tells us that the name of Earendil the mariner is not associated with Venus, but that the name of the planet (Venus) is Earendel, and the two are very seperate.
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