[HerenIstarion]

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Re: Orcish Fëar

I want to add some points that I missed in the first posting. For one, orcs - 'corrupted elves' must have been hating their Dark Lord for that corruption. Another point is that killing of such elf-orc must be considered not as murder of kelvar, but as release of fëa out of deceased hroa. Further comments concern Saulotus’ reply.

I do agree about different breeds of orcs, and accept that maybe some of orcish hroar were inhabited by corrupted Maiar spirits (why not, if even some beasts were possesed? e.g. Draugluin and others). But I don’t think men were used to produce orcs by Dark Lord himself . Saruman invented that first, I deem. As for Man-Orc compatability, tis clear, that not beast breed was used for those experiments, as Saruman’s Uruks had stronger wills (and bodies, too) than northern race. On the other hand there is no proof that orcs used were of the human origin, cause elf-orcs must have been equally compatible genetically, since human and elven hroar were same (otherwise the birth of Dior Thingol’s Heir would be impossible)

It is important to remember also that houseless fëar were not brought, but summoned to Mandos, so it is possible that corrupted elforcish fea (if not repenting) wouldn’t go there by it’s own will, but remain houseless in a form of some sort of ghost or wraith (remember Sharku’s shadow going west at first? Of course, he was a maia, but bieng in a hroa for centuries he got some aspects of a Children kind of a creature)