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**lindil** · 06-03-2001, 01:49 PM

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Re: Geneologies of the Eldar

Jallanite, I appreciate your attemptto salvage the later Galadriel story, and you are quite right in pointing out the whole issue of Thingol/Cirdan and the Kinslaying coverup. JRRT had he lived might well have done much of what you did. Moving the revelation earlier and having it be the pretext for Thingol's distrust from the get go is excellent , but as Tar Elenion points out it all runs afoul of the Road goes ever on. I think fidelity to what has been published [RGEO in this case] [w/ the exception of aberrations in the Hobbit] is important or the whole endeavor falls apart.

In general I like all of JRRT's increasing of Galadriel's stature in the later writings but unfortunately he hdid it all in isolation from the rest of the Legendarium, so from the point of view of a Silm canon that is coherent to the published canon we have to have some baseline upon which too make our Silm decisions.

in general [as I am now thinking of this] I would list the possible factors which must be considered heirarchically as such :
1]Agreement w/ LotR,GREO,Hobbit,Map...
11]His [andCRT's ] latest conception from which usable text can be used/extracted from HoME/UT/77 and I would be willing to include the Letters as there are some extended passages that could concevably fit the textual bill.
111] ealier details [principally Lost Tales and Lays] which add non-contradictory details , esp in places such as The fall of Gondolin where a more complete version did exist.

Hopefully others will have something constructive to say about the above scheme.

lindil

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06-03-2001, 01:49 PM	#26
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 607</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Geneologies of the Eldar Jallanite, I appreciate your attemptto salvage the later Galadriel story, and you are quite right in pointing out the whole issue of Thingol/Cirdan and the Kinslaying coverup. JRRT had he lived might well have done much of what you did. Moving the revelation earlier and having it be the pretext for Thingol's distrust from the get go is excellent , but as Tar Elenion points out it all runs afoul of the Road goes ever on. I think fidelity to what has been published [RGEO in this case] [w/ the exception of aberrations in the Hobbit] is important or the whole endeavor falls apart. In general I like all of JRRT's increasing of Galadriel's stature in the later writings but unfortunately he hdid it all in isolation from the rest of the Legendarium, so from the point of view of a Silm canon that is coherent to the published canon we have to have some baseline upon which too make our Silm decisions. in general [as I am now thinking of this] I would list the possible factors which must be considered heirarchically as such : 1]Agreement w/ LotR,GREO,Hobbit,Map... 11]His [andCRT's ] latest conception from which usable text can be used/extracted from HoME/UT/77 and I would be willing to include the Letters as there are some extended passages that could concevably fit the textual bill. 111] ealier details [principally Lost Tales and Lays] which add non-contradictory details , esp in places such as The fall of Gondolin where a more complete version did exist. Hopefully others will have something constructive to say about the above scheme. lindil </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.