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**lindil** · 02-08-2001, 09:33 AM

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movements of galadriel and MT

Tar Elenion: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> " Re movements:
I will post something on the movements of Galadriel and Celeborn
in a few days if you like." <hr></blockquote>
yes, please!These are just what we need here now as all my spare energy is going toward finishing my 1st section of Darkening of Valinor and a couple of outside projects.There are so many subtle concepts that need to be researche for a revised Silmarillion -it really helps one to appreciate CRT's work. and to think he was working w/ semi-legible30-50 yearold 'thin and spidery' scrawl much of the time-it is a near miracle.

Tar Elenion :<blockquote>Quote:<hr> " Yes. I am quite pleased that some of the linguists have access to and are publishing some of these still unpublished writings (though
at a very modest rate, there is actually a 'fuss' in the linguistic
community about some of this being 'held back' for too long; there
still seems to be a wealth of pertinent 'historical' information to be
mined from JRRT's (still unpublished) linguistic writings)." <hr></blockquote>
I have peeked at a couple of these pages. [ELF is one I don't recall the others] are you a member of any ,are there any you consider essential for conversation on more subtle issues such as these-that are not purely linguistic ? although part of my interst in the pages is that my interest in Quenya and Sindarin and the Alphabets has been growing lately.

Tar Elenion: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> " My own take on it is that with the 'sanitization' of her character (ie
her removal from all association with the rebellion) it lessen the
impact of her eventual 'change' from simply proud and ambitious
prince to a 'simpler' noble person 'fighting the long defeat' in a
struggle to 'atone' for a (possibly mis-) perceived errors. If JRRT
had gone through with the changes I think it the setting of a Ban on
her return and holding her accountable for deeds in which she had
no participation as rather contrived." <hr></blockquote>
RGEO does mention a ban on her return doesn't it. that does rather complicate things . I loaned my RGEO to saulotus , but I will check soon. But I seem to remember it.
As for fighting a long defeat for 6,500 years or so , I think that is no mean feat - w/ one's character being transformed or not.

Tar Elenion: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> " I am curious as to how LotR would need to be revised in a Myths
Transformed scenario, I have not noted very much in it that is not
compatible with LotR." <hr></blockquote>
I would look at Michael Martinez's article at suite 101.com " Is your canon on the loose" [which mentions are fledgling endeavors at a tome when we were trying to come to terms w/ wether a MT version was the way to go or not -btw for the 3 drafts our group is working on we were originally pondering doing both an MT and Old-Style versions-w/ saulotus in charge of MT . Now that he is not w/ us Mithadan has expressed interest in keeping that aspect of the project alive. ] I think the Old Myths Transformed thread that is still unlocked goes into it a bit although I am not sure.

lindil

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02-08-2001, 09:33 AM	#14
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 397</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> movements of galadriel and MT Tar Elenion: <blockquote>*Quote:<hr> " Re movements: I will post something on the movements of Galadriel and Celeborn in a few days if you like." <hr></blockquote> yes, please!These are just what we need here now as all my spare energy is going toward finishing my 1st section of Darkening of Valinor and a couple of outside projects.There are so many subtle concepts that need to be researche for a revised Silmarillion -it really helps one to appreciate CRT's work. and to think he was working w/ semi-legible30-50 yearold 'thin and spidery' scrawl much of the time-it is a near miracle. Tar Elenion :<blockquote>Quote:<hr> " Yes. I am quite pleased that some of the linguists have access to and are publishing some of these still unpublished writings (though at a very modest rate, there is actually a 'fuss' in the linguistic community about some of this being 'held back' for too long; there still seems to be a wealth of pertinent 'historical' information to be mined from JRRT's (still unpublished) linguistic writings)." <hr></blockquote> I have peeked at a couple of these pages. [ELF is one I don't recall the others] are you a member of any ,are there any you consider essential for conversation on more subtle issues such as these-that are not purely linguistic ? although part of my interst in the pages is that my interest in Quenya and Sindarin and the Alphabets has been growing lately. Tar Elenion: <blockquote>Quote:<hr> " My own take on it is that with the 'sanitization' of her character (ie her removal from all association with the rebellion) it lessen the impact of her eventual 'change' from simply proud and ambitious prince to a 'simpler' noble person 'fighting the long defeat' in a struggle to 'atone' for a (possibly mis-) perceived errors. If JRRT had gone through with the changes I think it the setting of a Ban on her return and holding her accountable for deeds in which she had no participation as rather contrived." <hr></blockquote> RGEO does mention a ban on her return doesn't it. that does rather complicate things . I loaned my RGEO to saulotus , but I will check soon. But I seem to remember it. As for fighting a long defeat for 6,500 years or so , I think that is no mean feat - w/ one's character being transformed or not. Tar Elenion: <blockquote>Quote:*<hr> " I am curious as to how LotR would need to be revised in a Myths Transformed scenario, I have not noted very much in it that is not compatible with LotR." <hr></blockquote> I would look at Michael Martinez's article at suite 101.com " Is your canon on the loose" [which mentions are fledgling endeavors at a tome when we were trying to come to terms w/ wether a MT version was the way to go or not -btw for the 3 drafts our group is working on we were originally pondering doing both an MT and Old-Style versions-w/ saulotus in charge of MT . Now that he is not w/ us Mithadan has expressed interest in keeping that aspect of the project alive. ] I think the Old Myths Transformed thread that is still unlocked goes into it a bit although I am not sure. lindil </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.