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Saulotus · 01-10-2001, 03:57 PM

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Re: Literary devices and plans to start

<blockquote>Quote:<hr> Beren and Luthien instead of the Fall of Gondolin?<hr></blockquote>
Whichever. Since they are test runs for examination on if the process will even work...

I still prefer to retain the different tale aspect approach. Lay of Leithian stands fine by itself. Prose form has it's own set of values on taking 'artistic liscense' so not every word need truly apply or even be accurate, unless one should like to examine tales of Paul Bunyon or other such Tall Tales put into prose form for accuracy.

The fact that the tale Aragorn tells to the Hobbits differs significantly from the Lay form from which it is supposedly taken proves this point somewhat.

On an additional note: I am sending Andreth to you both which implements more of the MT concepts.

Comment as you like, unfortunately it cannot be printed here for others to do likewise, which is a detriment.

I can easily follow up with 'Of Naming, Shibboleth, Of the Ents and Eagles, The Converse of Manwe and Illuvatar, Quendi And Eldar, Danbeth Pengolodh', and more... just to name a few.

Although I truly think that the inclusion of 'Herendil' up until the point it was abandoned is possible as it no-where directly contradicts anything stated. This would of course make Herendil a third son of Elendil, and the youngest. What his eventual fate was is left to the mists of time I deem... just another unfinished tale, but one that provides a wealth of information.

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01-10-2001, 03:57 PM	#27
Saulotus Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Sep 2000 Posts: 346	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dûm Posts: 357</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Re: Literary devices and plans to start <blockquote>*Quote:<hr> Beren and Luthien instead of the Fall of Gondolin?<hr></blockquote> Whichever. Since they are test runs for examination on if the process will even work... I still prefer to retain the different tale aspect approach. Lay of Leithian* stands fine by itself. Prose form has it's own set of values on taking 'artistic liscense' so not every word need truly apply or even be accurate, unless one should like to examine tales of Paul Bunyon or other such Tall Tales put into prose form for accuracy. The fact that the tale Aragorn tells to the Hobbits differs significantly from the Lay form from which it is supposedly taken proves this point somewhat. On an additional note: I am sending Andreth to you both which implements more of the MT concepts. Comment as you like, unfortunately it cannot be printed here for others to do likewise, which is a detriment. I can easily follow up with 'Of Naming, Shibboleth, Of the Ents and Eagles, The Converse of Manwe and Illuvatar, Quendi And Eldar, Danbeth Pengolodh', and more... just to name a few. Although I truly think that the inclusion of 'Herendil' up until the point it was abandoned is possible as it no-where directly contradicts anything stated. This would of course make Herendil a third son of Elendil, and the youngest. What his eventual fate was is left to the mists of time I deem... just another unfinished tale, but one that provides a wealth of information. </p>