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**lindil** · 01-31-2001, 12:28 AM

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House of Finwe

This is a very large issue if we include Celebrimbor , the sons of Feanor , The daughters of Fingolfin and Finarfin [or at least one of them ] and by a more remote extension [through Galadriel] Celeborn also.
If you pull at one thread alot of other little things get tugged.

Quite alot of 'minor' tales ride on this and I wonder if there is a principle that can be used to deduce it all.
the obvious one of 'what was his last stated idea' runs contrary to 'what was published in the LotR' .which according to various drafts and Letters was often [but not always ] a determining factor.

Tar Elenion as agreed to have a go at looking at the bigger picture of this and I for one eagerly await his research.

Lindil is often found on posting on the New Silmarillion Canon Forum at the Barrowdowns discussion board. 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p>

01-31-2001, 12:28 AM	#4
lindil Seeker of the Straight Path Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: a hidden fastness in Big Valley nor cal Posts: 1,680	<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Seeker of the Straight Path Posts: 359</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> House of Finwe This is a very large issue if we include Celebrimbor , the sons of Feanor , The daughters of Fingolfin and Finarfin [or at least one of them ] and by a more remote extension [through Galadriel] Celeborn also. If you pull at one thread alot of other little things get tugged. Quite alot of 'minor' tales ride on this and I wonder if there is a principle that can be used to deduce it all. the obvious one of 'what was his last stated idea' runs contrary to 'what was published in the LotR' .which according to various drafts and Letters was often [but not always ] a determining factor. Tar Elenion as agreed to have a go at looking at the bigger picture of this and I for one eagerly await his research. Lindil is often found on posting on the New Silmarillion Canon Forum at the Barrowdowns discussion board. 'The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night, and awaken early before dawn- exchanging lore and wisdom such as they possessed , so that they should not fall back into the mean and low estate of those , who never knew or more sadly still, had indeed rebelled against the Light.' </p> __________________ The dwindling Men of the West would often sit up late into the night exchanging lore & wisdom such as they still possessed that they should not fall back into the mean estate of those who never knew or indeed rebelled against the Light.