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Old 02-10-2003, 11:23 AM   #25
Findegil
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1. Galdor and Legolas went to Eressea-signifying that they never died. And the re-incarnated to children, into their descendants, was I believe discarded.
That's true, but how does that form an argument here? I never said Legolas and/or Galdor were reborn.

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2. Galdor of Gondolin is a wholly different character then the one in LotR. He is much wiser and stronger in FoG and I think the most valiant of the Gondothlim save Turgon" may have been held in some honour.
Again, check the Glorfindel essay! Galdor of the Havens is Galdor of Gondolin not reborn but still lingering in Middle-Earth. Or at least he could be, since JRR Tolkien was not sure if he survived FoG but said that if so he could reasonably be and since we know that Galdor survived we can assume he is. And the dishonour to Galdor is done by your characterisation of his role in LotR not by me. (Could it be that your view is here tainted by JRR Tolkiens own words concerning Galdor of the Havens in that essay, which are hardly justified?)

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3. Elven re-naming was not rare. For example, one of Haldir's brothers is named Rumil and Rumil was also a Valinorean loremaster. And Arakano, the Quenya name of Argon, was also the mother-name of his dad, Fingolfin. And both of Feanor's twin sons were given the same name Ambarussa. So Legolas of LotR could've just been re-named after Legolas of FoG.
That's true, but it does only provide a possibility, which I will grant you any way.

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4. Elves were credited with being able, in some cases, to make images in their stories appear to others, like Finrod did when he first discovered men. So, the stories and images of Balrogs could've been passed down with memory.
Well, yes and all the songs and stories of Beleriand were sung and told in Rivendell surly more often than in mirkwood. So that does even enhance my argument about Aragorns knowledge, does it?

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5. If Legolas on the Nine Walkers and of Gondolin were indeed the same person, don't you think Tolkien would've mentioned it?
Glorfindel of Gondolin and Glorfindel of Rivendell were one and the same person. Did we find that knowledge in the LotR?


To be honest, I never said and don't think that Tolkien meant Legolas of Mirkwood to be the same person as Legolas of Gondolin. But that does not mean that it can't be.

And my mean point is that we do not know Legolas' age and so all the argument about he is to young to have seen a Balrog is void.

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