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Forum: The Books
12-22-2005, 10:54 AM
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Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
But surely 'want' implies desire, which implies a...
But surely 'want' implies desire, which implies a lack, that something is felt to be missing in order for a sense of completion? Such a God may well be Omniscient & Omnipotent, but is Imperfect by... |
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Forum: The Books
12-22-2005, 09:44 AM
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Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
My own understanding (& I think this comes...
My own understanding (& I think this comes through perhaps more strongly in the Legendarium than in the Bible) is that God creates because it is in His nature to create. God is a creator, that is His... |
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Forum: The Books
12-18-2005, 06:54 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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This is a radio interview with Tolkien (hope the...
This is a radio interview with Tolkien (hope the link works) where he discusses some of the religious aspects of LotR. http://www.daisy.freeserve.co.uk/jrrt_int.htm |
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Forum: The Books
12-16-2005, 03:02 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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What I still see is a conflict in Tolkien between...
What I still see is a conflict in Tolkien between 'Imagination' & 'Orthodoxy', & that this 'conflict' is what produces his Art (the conflicting 'forces' of thesis & antithesis producing synthesis, if... |
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Forum: The Books
12-15-2005, 03:06 PM
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Poll: Is Eru God?
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I'm not sure the Valar 'create' as such. I think...
I'm not sure the Valar 'create' as such. I think they 'sub-create'. The true source of creation is Eru, who is sole possessor of the Secret Fire. The Valar, in the words of Gandalf are 'Servants of... |
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Forum: The Books
12-15-2005, 03:37 AM
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Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
I suppose the Music is Myth/Theology while Ea is,...
I suppose the Music is Myth/Theology while Ea is, in a sense Legend/History (the presence of 'immortal' beings - the Elves - who are alive in that period & remain in the world down to the 'present'... |
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Forum: The Books
12-14-2005, 05:13 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
My own feeling is that we're dealing with...
My own feeling is that we're dealing with emanations/harmonics (as in Qabala for instance) ie Ea is a 'lower' harmonic of the Music, 'produced' by it but happening simultaneously with it. |
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Forum: The Books
12-14-2005, 03:26 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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Surely its possible that the Music & Ea are...
Surely its possible that the Music & Ea are 'simultaneous' events. The Music happens outside the world of time & Ea is its 'reflection'. Certainly, from Eru's perspective if all things are known they... |
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Forum: The Books
12-04-2005, 04:43 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
In truth, we don't know when the fall of Satan...
In truth, we don't know when the fall of Satan took place, all we know is that it took place sometime before the fall of Man, and that it was indeed Satan who pled to the free-will of both Eve and... |
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Forum: The Books
12-03-2005, 01:10 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
I just found this in an essay by Verlyn Flieger,...
I just found this in an essay by Verlyn Flieger, 'A Cautionary Tale' in an edition of The Chesterton Review (http://www.isi.org/journals/chesterton_review.html). The relevant issue is avaiable as a... |
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Forum: The Books
12-01-2005, 05:35 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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It certainly wasn't a 'lie' - it just wasn't a...
It certainly wasn't a 'lie' - it just wasn't a fact. CT has shown that his father's memory (in letters written/statements made many years after the fact) was not 100% - cf the statement that he... |
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Forum: The Books
11-30-2005, 04:33 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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Precisely. And I suspect this is pretty much what...
Precisely. And I suspect this is pretty much what Tolkien did. I don't think he 'consciously revised' LotR during the writing phase to make it a Catholic work. I think he wrote it, gave it to the... |
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Forum: The Books
11-30-2005, 01:10 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
I think we can draw conclusions. In reference to...
I think we can draw conclusions. In reference to the Elves' Hymn to Elbereth he states (The Road Goes Ever On) 'The Elves sing hymns to her. (These & other references to religion in LotR are... |
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Forum: The Books
11-30-2005, 05:27 AM
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Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
Actually, all he did was state the obvious fact...
Actually, all he did was state the obvious fact that its possible to read LotR as a stand alone novel (indeed, for most of its history that's how it had to be read) & that if it is read that way the... |
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Forum: The Books
11-29-2005, 02:29 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
Actually, I've said that I think Eru was the same...
Actually, I've said that I think Eru was the same God Tolkien believed in & the one he worshipped. I do, however, think that Tolkien's concept of God was somewhat 'unorthodox', to say the least.... |
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Forum: The Books
11-29-2005, 09:04 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
My statements were based on Hutton's talk at...
My statements were based on Hutton's talk at Birmingham, but I think he got it right. The Quenta is very much a 'transitional' phase - if seen in the context of Tolkien's life. Some aspects of... |
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Forum: The Books
11-29-2005, 06:05 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
LmP
I think its possible to interpret all...
LmP I think its possible to interpret all those references to 'meaning' in another way. I was listening again last night to Ronald Hutton's talk at Birmingham 'Tolkien the Pagan'. He made the... |
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Forum: The Books
11-28-2005, 12:43 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
I suppose we all read it in the light of our...
I suppose we all read it in the light of our experiences - though I think we should try not to. The more of the primary world we bring in to our reading the less Middle-earth will seem a real,... |
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Forum: The Books
11-28-2005, 07:23 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
Recently I've begun to wonder whether what we get...
Recently I've begun to wonder whether what we get from LotR is not 'satisfaction' a having our spiritual questions answered or our confusions & dilemmas resolved, but rather a 'confirmation' of our... |
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Forum: The Books
11-27-2005, 04:04 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
On the 'inscrutability' of Tolkien's God:
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On the 'inscrutability' of Tolkien's God: So, Tolkien's God apparently 'tolerates' evil (its also interesting that in discussing the Fall of Numenor Tolkien refers to 'our' world). In another... |
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Forum: The Books
11-20-2005, 05:35 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
He lost his life - I specifically avoided saying...
He lost his life - I specifically avoided saying he died... |
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Forum: The Books
11-20-2005, 04:02 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
Fine - but why should Frodo have to suffer & lose...
Fine - but why should Frodo have to suffer & lose his life because of Eru's choice to permit freewill - wouldn't the more 'moral' action on Eru's part have been to suffer himself, rather than choose... |
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Forum: The Books
11-20-2005, 06:19 AM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,627
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davem
I can see & accept Child's points - but only if...
I can see & accept Child's points - but only if LotR is read in the light of the Legendarium (my usual way, admittedly). But in a recent conversation it was suggested that LotR is Tolkien's 'secular'... |
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Forum: The Books
11-19-2005, 01:57 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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davem
I think it is the psychological 'tension' Tolkien...
I think it is the psychological 'tension' Tolkien felt between the reality he had known - losing his parents, his closest friends & having seen man's inhumanity to man on a scale never before... |
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Forum: The Books
11-18-2005, 01:55 PM
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Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,627
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davem
Ok, but this thread is discussing Eru & as Eru...
Ok, but this thread is discussing Eru & as Eru doesn't appear in LotR I'm not sure it gets us very far. |
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