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Forum: The Books 12-20-2005, 01:48 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
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Posted By Roa_Aoife
Fair enough, and had we no record of Goliath's...

Fair enough, and had we no record of Goliath's height, I'd have to conceed. But we do know it.



For comparison purposes.



For us, a man near 9 ft is an amazing oddity. Goliath was over...
Forum: The Books 12-15-2005, 07:11 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
We aren't discussing Judeism, we're discusing...

We aren't discussing Judeism, we're discusing Catholicism, and how well Tolkien's world meshes with it.



The only principle evil ever mentioned in Scripture is Satan, unless you know of...
Forum: The Books 12-14-2005, 07:49 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
I think you confused a few things...

If we use scripture to validate a point, we must take all of scripture as one. Just because Satan’s role isn’t clarified as the serpent until Revelation:



Doesn’t mean we should disregard the...
Forum: The Books 12-04-2005, 09:51 AM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Congratulations, you just brought up one of the...

Congratulations, you just brought up one of the biggest debates in Christianity today. If Tolkien thought the Fall of Man was inevitable, I can bring to mind several Theologians who would disagree....
Forum: The Books 12-03-2005, 07:31 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
*gives up and gets involved in the theological debate*

I can't let this go unanswered. It seems that one Verlyn Flieger has a rather onesided view of Christian beliefs. Unfortunately, this shortcoming is shared by far too many people, on all sides of...
Forum: The Books 11-30-2005, 04:08 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Perfectly stated, if I do say so. If you look at...

Perfectly stated, if I do say so. If you look at evidence to prove your own point, you can almost always do it. That's what we science folk call the danger of bias. To really get to the truth of...
Forum: The Books 11-30-2005, 12:12 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Opinion polls don't really prove much. After...

Opinion polls don't really prove much. After all, an opinion poll from the 1300's would say the world was flat. The opinion poll on this discussion says Eru is God, but I doubt that the numbers...
Forum: The Books 11-28-2005, 12:28 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
If we assume the LoTR is a history, it would...

If we assume the LoTR is a history, it would probably be in the BC era, which, according to the Old Testament, faith and repentance were the saving grace, and nothing else. The "good guys" in LoTR...
Forum: The Books 11-20-2005, 09:20 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
I would still be voting yes, LMP. But I'd...

I would still be voting yes, LMP.

But I'd like to point out that we seem to be discussing our individual veiws of God, rather than Tolkien's veiw of Eru. Or does that just go back to the "C"...
Forum: The Books 11-18-2005, 02:45 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Actually, the view of God (the Father) is the...

Actually, the view of God (the Father) is the same for all three. The view of Jesus is where things start to sperate. But we really, really shouldn't get into that.

And davem is right- Eru is...
Forum: The Books 11-18-2005, 01:06 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
I agree with Saucy, but in the other direction. ...

I agree with Saucy, but in the other direction. If it is clear that Eru is God in the Sil, then Eru must still be God in LoTR, not the other way around.
Forum: The Books 11-18-2005, 12:50 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
We're back on topic! Yay! You make a good...

We're back on topic! Yay!

You make a good point, Saucy, but allow me to explain from the perspective of one who has been raised in a Christian home. Is it really so difficult to believe that a...
Forum: The Books 11-18-2005, 11:33 AM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
42!!!

I'm going to leave it at this. We all seem to be in agreement that to Tolkien, Eru=God. I haven't seen that point disputed in sometime, so I will consider the point conceded. If anyone wants to...
Forum: The Books 11-18-2005, 10:48 AM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Excellent point, Fae. My apologies for not...

Excellent point, Fae. My apologies for not clarifying my point better. I still say that we should go with author's intent on this one. What I meant by my post to Saucy was that things were...
Forum: The Books 11-18-2005, 10:12 AM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Well, then, I feel the need to point out the...

Well, then, I feel the need to point out the original point of the thread:



The question was is “Eru equivalent to the Judea-Christian God?” not “Is Eru equivalent to your view of God?”
...
Forum: The Books 11-18-2005, 09:03 AM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
*Breaks Squealing*

Hold the phone, people. You want to argue how compatible Eru is with everyone's personal veiws of the Christian God?!?!? *deep breath*

So, just let me clarify, given the evidence provided...
Forum: The Books 11-17-2005, 10:20 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Certainly valid, Saucy, but hardly relevant to...

Certainly valid, Saucy, but hardly relevant to the question presented. I simple meant that in the context of the thread, it's meaningless. Such points are really just getting off topic. The...
Forum: The Books 11-17-2005, 10:13 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
I'm not really an authority on the unpublished...

I'm not really an authority on the unpublished works, so I think the question of their importance, again, goes to his intent. Were they unpublished because he didn't want them to be, or because he...
Forum: The Books 11-17-2005, 05:46 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
Fea's right- it's just a book.

As I said, I refuse to get involved in a religious debate over a work of fiction, but my veiws on the similarity between Eru and God were nicely stated by Thenamir. That being said, I find it...
Forum: The Books 11-16-2005, 09:40 PM
Replies: 262
Poll: Is Eru God?
Views: 64,608
Posted By Roa_Aoife
As much as I would love to get into a...

As much as I would love to get into a philosophical and religious debate, I'm going to avoid those subjects. Simply, I voted yes, because I believe that was Tolkien's intention. Whether or not Eru...
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