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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-20-2003, 03:13 AM
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Posted By davem
Sting its ocurred to me that in my last post, when I...

its ocurred to me that in my last post, when I said Tolkien 'Christainised' the Elves it may have come across in a way I didn't mean. After being so 'negative' about the Elves (calling them...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-19-2003, 03:24 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Ok, I used the term 'fascist' as a shorthand....

Ok, I used the term 'fascist' as a shorthand. Though I did say it was 'almost' fascist. I suppose what I want is to try & combat the idea prevalent among a lot of readers that Elves are wholly good &...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-18-2003, 03:18 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Adanadhel, in a word, yeah, well, more or less ...

Adanadhel, in a word, yeah, well, more or less smilies/smile.gif. Actually, I haven't really thought enough about it, but you've pretty much got what I meant, whether its acurate or not, I don't...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-17-2003, 04:31 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Saucepan Man, without straying too far from the...

Saucepan Man, without straying too far from the thread, you're right, in my opinion, about the Elves in the First Age. They are virtually approaching Fascism in some ways - they are racist. Dwarves...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-14-2003, 03:28 AM
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Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Littleman Poet, I think we're coming together - I...

Littleman Poet, I think we're coming together - I thought for a while there that we had a different understanding of this subject.
I don't mind subjects going off at tangents, as long as they're...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-13-2003, 08:38 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Well, as far as the Elves feeling that leaving...

Well, as far as the Elves feeling that leaving Middle earth wasn't really heartbreaking, I'm not sure. I think Galadriel's great struggle against taking the Ring was precisely down to her desire to...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-13-2003, 03:23 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Well, LMP, I finally found the quote about...

Well, LMP, I finally found the quote about embalming I wanted. Its from letter 154 to Naomi Mitchison.
''But the Elves are not wholly good or in the right. Not so much because they had flirted with...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-12-2003, 08:58 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Can't recall the exact reference a the moment -...

Can't recall the exact reference a the moment - its in one of the letters - Verlyn Flieger quotes it, & as far as I remember, Tolkien does mean it to have a slightly 'negative' connotation. I will...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-12-2003, 03:30 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting I'm a bit uncertain about this, LMP, but I'm not...

I'm a bit uncertain about this, LMP, but I'm not sure that the Elves do continue in a spiritual form, after their physical forms have 'disipated'. You're into the whole Fea/Hroa issue (cf the...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-11-2003, 03:19 AM
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Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting Yes, Littlemanpoet, but, the Elves are a problem....

Yes, Littlemanpoet, but, the Elves are a problem. On the one hand, they're the closest to nature, with the strongest love of the natural world, of any of Tolkien's races, but at the same time, in...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-10-2003, 04:06 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting I think, Dininziliel, that's very profound,...

I think, Dininziliel, that's very profound, though, like you, I struggle with my own understanding of Tolkien's thought's on Death. Its a subject which is not really explored - maybe readers find it...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-08-2003, 08:47 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting I was struck, reading Verlyn Flieger's Splintered...

I was struck, reading Verlyn Flieger's Splintered Light, by the way she brought forward Tolkien's own sense of religious doubt, which would sometimes assail him. So for Tolkien himself, this idea of...
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin 03-08-2003, 03:50 AM
Replies: 40
Views: 36,626
Posted By davem
Sting 'Its about death, the inevitability of death'

That was Tolkien's thought on what LotR is about, given in a BBC interview. Does everyone agree? Or do we think Tolkien was mistaken about his work? Maybe we ignore that aspect, & read it as an...
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