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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
03-21-2003, 02:01 PM
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Replies: 61
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-23-2002, 07:17 AM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Okay. But I'm glad of the signposts. I'll snoop...Okay. But I'm glad of the signposts. I'll snoop thru the thread a little, and wait. Thanks. |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-22-2002, 08:45 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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lmp, when you're ready, tell us, where do we find...lmp, when you're ready, tell us, where do we find the rest of "The Incarnate Dream"? |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-22-2002, 07:54 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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**standing ovation for mr underhill**
I've...**standing ovation for mr underhill** I've been wondering why "euc". Does he spell that out in the essay? or worse, the letters?... (Blushes) euc => eucharist-- that's huge. Having communion... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-22-2002, 03:59 PM
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Replies: 61
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Belin,
You mentioned lmp's choice of...Belin, You mentioned lmp's choice of Boromir's death as a eucatastrophe and then replied One, I really liked your analysis and hadn't thought Pippin's actions through that far before; and... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-22-2002, 03:49 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Oops, cross-posting with Sharon again.
...Oops, cross-posting with Sharon again. Sharon, you've hit on one of my favorite concepts of "goal in life"-- fulfilling, aka not missing out on, one's design and destiny. How disappointing to... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-22-2002, 11:06 AM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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lmp,
One could argue that Frodo prophesied...lmp, One could argue that Frodo prophesied with paper and pen rather than crying in the town square or on the hillside. It is one method. And many prophets recorded, not just what would be, but... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-21-2002, 11:38 AM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Maril,
I tried to say both were valid,...Maril, I tried to say both were valid, was I unclear? Sorry; Good point, Maril. And your point about Sam's backbreaking-- yet in the end, "insufficient"-- labor is well taken. I... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-20-2002, 09:51 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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lmp,
Fascinating question; I've often...lmp, Fascinating question; I've often wondered what people are referrring to when they use the word "wonder", and felt a bit left out! Maybe I'm not after all. That would be nice. ... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-20-2002, 06:34 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Kuruharan, littlemanpoet, Squatter,...Kuruharan, littlemanpoet, Squatter, Marilangesundheitimaluim, and Rimbaud, This all brings me around to take a harder look at the various definitions of eucatastrophe, and re-promise myself to... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-19-2002, 09:02 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Maril, about Catharsis.
First, my primary...Maril, about Catharsis. First, my primary association with the word is with the sense of release of tension involved. But I'd like to work with your definition for a bit. (I hope this... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-19-2002, 03:54 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Well, lmp, I guess I'll have to reread On Fairy...Well, lmp, I guess I'll have to reread On Fairy Stories again, and look at that definition more closely. In terms of the definition above, however: Personally, I can't imagine that each... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-19-2002, 11:04 AM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Lindil,
Regarding Aragorn's marriage, I...Lindil, Regarding Aragorn's marriage, I agree wholeheartedly with all your points. And I don't mean to imply that he was arrogant, grasping, or ... whatever. But I do think there must have been... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-18-2002, 06:45 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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I'm finding myself wondering how many definitions...I'm finding myself wondering how many definitions of eucatastrophe there are. Here's what i started with at the top of the thread: The main thing I get out of this is the "glimpse of... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-17-2002, 07:06 AM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Okay, Kuruharan, I can see that. I'm almost more...Okay, Kuruharan, I can see that. I'm almost more concerned with the stuff that points forwards to the event than the event itself, because dreams, visions, prophesies etc tell us so much about... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-16-2002, 02:22 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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All right, Kuruharan, I see your point, and I...All right, Kuruharan, I see your point, and I agree that formula should be avoided and would lessen the suprise quality of the eucatastrophe. However, does that mean that one eucatastrophe must... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-16-2002, 09:40 AM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Perhaps you could expand/ explain your question...Perhaps you could expand/ explain your question so that it makes sense to me. I'm a bit thick. My initial reaction is, that part of eucatastrophe is that it is a glimpse into the eternal, into... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-15-2002, 09:37 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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I think so. Tolkien said, "never to be counted...I think so. Tolkien said, "never to be counted on to recur". He didn't say that it couldn't recur. And I find that some do recur, for me, several times, sometimes deeper and more piercing every... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-15-2002, 08:28 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Good point, Mr. Underhill. Sam is a steady...Good point, Mr. Underhill. Sam is a steady eucatastrophe-producer. ("Eucer"?) I picked up Smith of Wooton Major last night and about got euc'ed to peices in Faery-land. I sure didn't get that... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
08-11-2002, 08:15 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Selfishness and Altruism uniting in love: In one...Selfishness and Altruism uniting in love: In one of my favorite chapters, "A Conspiracy Unmasked". Pippin, Merry, and Sam decide to go with Frodo-- wherever and intro whatever he goes-- because he... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
07-25-2002, 05:45 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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Selfishness and Altruism lost in Love: to me the...Selfishness and Altruism lost in Love: to me the embodiment of this one is Aragorn. To oversimplify: He (selfishly) wants Arwen badly enough to (altruistically) roam the countryside protecting... |
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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
07-21-2002, 08:01 PM
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Replies: 61
Views: 69,197
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eucatastrophe: piercing joy that brings tearsFrom letter 89 by Tolkien: "... I coined the word 'eucatastrophe': the sudden happy turn in a story which pierces you with a joy that brings tears (which I argued it is the highest function of... |
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