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Forum: The Books
08-09-2004, 01:23 AM
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davem
But wouldn't this deny the autonomy of the...
But wouldn't this deny the autonomy of the oathtakers - why should anyone - even the Valar - have the right to decide whether an oath should count? Surely the Valar in that case would be treating the... |
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Forum: The Books
07-21-2004, 02:36 AM
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davem
It seems to me that in Middle earth once an oath...
It seems to me that in Middle earth once an oath is sworn it will work through. Problem then arises if you swear to do something which is logically or physically impossible. Effectively feanor & his... |
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Forum: The Books
07-20-2004, 09:04 AM
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davem
My feeling is that when Frodo says to Sam, in...
My feeling is that when Frodo says to Sam, in response to Sam's account of his conversation with the Elves: he is officially accepting Sam's oath. From that point Sam becomes 'servant', Frodo... |
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Forum: The Books
07-20-2004, 05:42 AM
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davem
I think the number of oaths Aragorn swears is...
I think the number of oaths Aragorn swears is very significant, in that he is binding himself to so many tasks its arguable that his life isn't his own. Also, once he becomes King he will recieve... |
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Forum: The Books
07-20-2004, 02:06 AM
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Replies: 26
Views: 10,236
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davem
Its matter of interpretation, I suppose. This is...
Its matter of interpretation, I suppose. This is what sparked the whole discussion off on the Chapter thread. I'll give some of my post there: As to the rest of your points, I can only agree... |
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Forum: The Books
07-19-2004, 12:42 PM
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Replies: 26
Views: 10,236
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davem
But this is the difference between an act of...
But this is the difference between an act of goodwill - even one driven by necessity - & an oath. An oath is a 'public' declaration. You're right, Aragorn had every reason to help Frodo get the Ring... |
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Forum: The Books
07-19-2004, 09:55 AM
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Replies: 26
Views: 10,236
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davem
But Theoden does release him from his service - I...
But Theoden does release him from his service - I had to check this because It surprised me in the light of this thread: So Merry from that point is no longer in Theoden's service - from... |
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Forum: The Books
07-19-2004, 06:12 AM
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Replies: 26
Views: 10,236
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davem
SpM This is what intrigues me - different kinds...
SpM This is what intrigues me - different kinds of oaths, what they mean, & how they affect those who make & accept them. If we take the oath sworn by the Dead Men of Dunharrow, Isildur curses... |
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Forum: The Books
07-19-2004, 01:19 AM
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Replies: 26
Views: 10,236
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davem
I think this is the right approach. Oaths, vows,...
I think this is the right approach. Oaths, vows, promises run right through the Legendarium. I've already discussed Merry's oath of service to Theoden in the Chapter by Chapter thread. Merry seems to... |
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Forum: The Books
07-18-2004, 01:50 PM
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Replies: 26
Views: 10,236
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davem
Oaths & Oathbreaking
Ok, I don't know how many of you have been following our discussion of Chapter 3 of LotR in the Chapter by Chapter section, starting at post 43.... |
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