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Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() yes, and this is one of the reasons that i believe that orcs are immortal, and bred from elves. Otherwise, why would what saruman did (mix orcs with men to make the goblin-men) be so horrible? And... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() That is true, all i was saying was that you can live to 142 and not be immortal. Hobbits live longer than men, but no one would say they were immortal. |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() PMing is more effective than posting. And, although i believe in orcish immortality, 142 years does not imply immortality. The men on Numenor lived that long, at least the noblemen. |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() If you read my post carefully, I said that Morgoth could not make the orcs MORTAL, not he could not make the IMMORTAL. What I was saying was, if they are corrupted elves, they cannot be mortal. And... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() How can you be immortal but only until the end of the first age? If you die at a certain time, you are not immortal. Also, mortality is a GIFT from illuvatar. How could Morgoth or Sauron BESTOW... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() If the orcs were, in a way, controlled by sauron or morgoth, then they would reproduce. MY THEORY The quote about elven reproduction is true, but this fact is true because the elves have a... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() Yes, well, I have started a topic about it, so that this discussion does not go too off topic. If you want to answer me, go to that thread (Man/Orc Reproduction)... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() False, you can take elvish blood away. In all elf-human marriages, the elf becomes mortal. And the children have a choice. I wonder what happens to the children- do they make a choice, or does sauron... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() Yes, that is helpful to know. Unfortunately, I have not read morgoths ring, so I was not aware of this. Even so, i do not find it impossible that morgoth has found a way to force the orcs to... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() That is true, but it is possible that there is an elite force of elvish orcs hidden somewhere. I would think that elvish orcs would be of better "quality" than human orcs because they have longer to... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() OK, yes, thank you for correcting my error. However, I stand by my belief that not all orcs are immortal, only some. The goblin-men are obviously not immortal, but other than that, I am not sure any... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
Views: 46,186
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() What makes you think the orc chiefs would be dead? Since they are probably mostly cowards, they would run away and not die... Actually, I think they are the most likely to survive. And only the orcs... |
Forum: Haudh-en-Ndengin
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Replies: 45
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Tuor Turambar,Cursed by the Valar
![]() Welss, the orcs bred from Quendi are immortal, but hte orcs bred from men are not. The Uruk-Hai, for example, are not immoortal, because it states that they were bred from orcs and men (somewhere). I... |
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