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Forum: The Books 09-08-2005, 07:12 PM
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Posted By Mister Underhill
True enough, and I've never disputed that --...

True enough, and I've never disputed that -- though I suppose I could by pulling out that well-thumbed Eru quote: "...no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any...
Forum: The Books 09-08-2005, 05:50 PM
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Posted By Mister Underhill
Ah, very interesting idea, even though it seems...

Ah, very interesting idea, even though it seems to contradict----which I agree with very much. This is what I was trying to articulate in my last post.

Is the Ring "evil" because of the...
Forum: The Books 09-08-2005, 02:25 PM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
Well, I've not said otherwise. Is this the...

Well, I've not said otherwise. Is this the point? I thought we were discussing the degree to which the Ring is sentient or not, capable of "submitting" to use or not, etc.

What I get from your...
Forum: The Books 09-08-2005, 11:00 AM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
You make it sound like such a black and white...

You make it sound like such a black and white proposition. I agree that the Ring is not a completely inanimate object. But does it have the ability to analyze a situation and then "decide" whether...
Forum: The Books 09-08-2005, 09:12 AM
Replies: 112
Views: 29,077
Posted By Mister Underhill
I think you credit the Ring too much with a mind...

I think you credit the Ring too much with a mind and will of its own.
Forum: The Books 09-07-2005, 03:47 PM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
Addendum: Forgot to add that the Ring-claimer's...

Addendum: Forgot to add that the Ring-claimer's theoretical power over the Nazgűl at the Crack may derive from the Ruling Ring's power over the "nine rings for Men", once again plunging the issue...
Forum: The Books 09-07-2005, 03:04 PM
Replies: 112
Views: 29,077
Posted By Mister Underhill
This is an excellent question, and one whose...

This is an excellent question, and one whose answer is not as clear-cut as some speculation on this thread would lead you to believe. Letter 246, in which Tolkien expounds at length on the events at...
Forum: The Books 08-27-2005, 09:24 AM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
While I agree in principle that the Ring is...

While I agree in principle that the Ring is deceitful, and that the price you pay in power gained is ultimately corruption and betrayal, I disagree with your assessment of the Ring as having no...
Forum: The Books 08-26-2005, 09:55 AM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
What's the basis for this? Gandalf seems to...

What's the basis for this? Gandalf seems to think it would give him "extra" power: I daresay Galadriel's speech at her temptation and her discussion of the nature of the Ring implies the same.
Forum: The Books 08-26-2005, 08:44 AM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
Huh. Pippin? Really? Even considering the episode...

Huh. Pippin? Really? Even considering the episode with the palantír? Pippin seems by far too immature and careless to be considered as the Bearer. I'd put him near, or at, the bottom of the list...
Forum: The Books 08-25-2005, 07:23 PM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
Adding to Saucepan's case is the fact that...

Adding to Saucepan's case is the fact that Aragorn alone of the Fellowship has a legitimate claim on the Ring. You can almost imagine him being able to give the palantír speech I cited above about...
Forum: The Books 08-24-2005, 02:33 PM
Replies: 112
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Posted By Mister Underhill
You've made a powerful case for Gandalf, Fordie,...

You've made a powerful case for Gandalf, Fordie, though balanced against your analysis is very strong evidence of Gandalf's self-knowledge/self-control in this matter: his knowledge of the Ring's...
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