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Forum: The Books
08-08-2007, 10:22 AM
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Replies: 98
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obloquy
"As perfect"? Are there degrees of perfection?
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"As perfect"? Are there degrees of perfection? Any theory of what an infinite, omnipotent being is capable of is suspect. The dimensions of God (even simply as a concept) are so far from being... |
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Forum: The Books
08-04-2007, 09:56 AM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
I am not going to try to catch up right now, but...
I am not going to try to catch up right now, but I heartily disagree with davem's perspective. I mention this lest anyone confuse his argument with mine based on their mutual opposition to Raynor's. ... |
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Forum: The Books
08-03-2007, 02:12 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
The scriptures indicate that the paradise will be...
The scriptures indicate that the paradise will be on Earth, as was originally intended. After all, why should an issue brought up by rebellious creations change God's purpose for Man? Why put them on... |
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Forum: The Books
08-03-2007, 11:40 AM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
Well that's not what I'm saying, either. Melkor's...
Well that's not what I'm saying, either. Melkor's power was not evil power. I express my thoughts on this more completely in another thread (http://forum.barrowdowns.com/showthread.php?t=11734): |
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Forum: The Books
08-02-2007, 06:45 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
I think you're seeing the glass as half empty. As...
I think you're seeing the glass as half empty. As I pointed out in post 35 above, Melkor's slow self-defeat may be a foreshadowing of the gradual mending of Arda itself. The Melkor element is not... |
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Forum: The Books
07-30-2007, 07:53 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
I said Adam and Eve were created with free will....
I said Adam and Eve were created with free will. Prior to Satan's interference, they were merely unaware of sinfulness--innocent like children. The only rule they were given is that they were not to... |
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Forum: The Books
07-23-2007, 02:33 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
My thoughts in answer to your main questions: ...
My thoughts in answer to your main questions: Adam and Eve's fall from perfection brought sin into Man's makeup. To paraphrase a scripture: "through Adam sin entered the world, and death through... |
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Forum: The Books
03-28-2007, 11:02 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
I think Iluvatar would enjoy de facto...
I think Iluvatar would enjoy de facto invincibility regardless of whether his "incarnation" entailed diminution. Iluvatar's power, if it was not unlimited, was at least immeasurably greater than that... |
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Forum: The Books
03-24-2007, 12:48 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
I think my use of the word "will" may be...
I think my use of the word "will" may be misunderstood. In my post above, I call spiritual power "will" because it is a clearer term than "power." I explained it there, but I do not mind going over... |
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Forum: The Books
03-19-2007, 08:27 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
Hot Esty!!!
This is the letter I...
Hot Esty!!! This is the letter I mentioned above; thanks for hunting it down. The very nub of it, I believe. I brushed up against this point in my dismissal of Essex' reference to... |
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Forum: The Books
03-09-2007, 03:18 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
I think you're right davem. It was my...
I think you're right davem. It was my understanding that the two states of embodiment were first defined as unique in writings later than LotR, but now that I'm briefly flipping through X: Morgoth's... |
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Forum: The Books
03-09-2007, 12:43 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
It's a tempting concept, but Tolkien never gave...
It's a tempting concept, but Tolkien never gave any more detail than discarnate, "clothed", and incarnate. There's every indication that the final incarnate stage of an eala is the same corporeal... |
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Forum: The Books
03-09-2007, 10:44 AM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
Great post, Thenamir. I'm really glad to see you...
Great post, Thenamir. I'm really glad to see you paying attention to The Books again. |
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Forum: The Books
03-09-2007, 10:39 AM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
I don't think the Balrog's hroa is different than...
I don't think the Balrog's hroa is different than Gandalf's. We don't have any text saying that Balrogs were incarnate, but there are good arguments for the case. The most compelling is the fact that... |
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Forum: The Books
03-09-2007, 12:31 AM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
Essex has provided exactly zero arguments for...
Essex has provided exactly zero arguments for anything. His entire existence seems to be dedicated to declaring as annoyingly as possible that the weak can overcome the mighty, and yet his most... |
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Forum: The Books
03-08-2007, 08:22 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
Is that actually a published book? Whoever wrote...
Is that actually a published book? Whoever wrote it obviously has no clue what he's talking about. Morgoth was originally more powerful than all the other Valar combined. He was later diminished... |
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Forum: The Books
03-08-2007, 06:10 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
And yet Fingolfin could not have slain Melkor....
And yet Fingolfin could not have slain Melkor. His power was enough to wound Melkor--in other words, to overcome Melkor's power minorly and briefly, but not ultimately. Gandalf wounded the Balrog... |
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Forum: The Books
03-08-2007, 06:06 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
Maybe. On the other hand, the Dagger of...
Maybe. On the other hand, the Dagger of Westernesse may have done the whole job, overcoming completely the protective power of the Witch-King's ring. This idea that a power can be "broken"... |
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Forum: The Books
03-08-2007, 04:51 PM
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Replies: 98
Views: 20,740
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obloquy
Sauron vs. Your Mama - A Discussion of Power in Middle-earth
I'm reproducing this post from the Witch-King vs. Gandalf discussion in the Movies forum so that it can get some attention from serious Tolkien nerds. Tolkien's definitions of power are complex,... |
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