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Hans Markus Rod 05-27-2003 03:01 PM

east coast of Middle earth
 
The numenoreans were great mariners, and they ventured to the far south, several hundred miles further south than the Havens of Umbar, but what i wonder is this; Is it possible that the Numenoreans rounded the cape of Ormal, where once the great lamp of the south was located and explored the eastern coasts of Middle-earth. Has Tolkien stated it somewhere? I find it very interesting, and the question has bothered my brain a while now.

Finwe 05-27-2003 03:38 PM

When the Blessed Isles were separated from the rest of Middle-earth, The Silmarillion describes that mariners who tried to sail to Aman only rounded the Earth, and came back again.
It is also very likely that some Numenorean mariners sailed around the Cape of Ormal, and created some Black Numenorean settlements in the East and South.

dwarfwarrior 05-27-2003 05:28 PM

that makes sense because the easterlings would have payed tribute so the numenoreans would have made settlements.

Finwe 05-28-2003 06:24 PM

I think somewhere in the Unfinished Tales or The Lost Road it says that some of the ships that Elendil was commanding after the fall of Numenor were blown completely around Middle-earth (or at least that's what I think it said), so at least one of his ships may have landed there.

Findegil 05-31-2003 04:56 AM

In the Akalabęth it is stated that they sail round the south of Middle-Earth:
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Thus it was that because of the Ban of the Valar the voyages od the Dúnedain in those days went ever eastward and not westward, from darkness of the North to the heats of the South, and beyond the South to the Nether Darkness; and they came even into the inner seas, and sailed about Middle-earth and glipsed from thier high prows the Gates of Morning in the East. ...
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Findegil


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