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Thorongil

01-21-2004 03:46 AM

Strange beasts

What were those beasts pulling the huge battering ram? I've never heard anything about them before. Does anybody know?

NightKnight

01-21-2004 10:16 AM

I've always thought of them as some kind of huge trolls. Maybe I'm wrong though...

Elrond of Rivendell

01-21-2004 10:31 AM

I just looked up a quote:

Quote:

Grond they named it, in memory of the Hammer of the Underworld of old. Great beasts drew it, orcs surrounded it, and behind walked mountain-trolls to wield it.

So Tolkien seems to make it very clear that there were trolls AND beasts. But I don't think he gave us much more precisions about these particulars beasts.

EfR

Nenrauko

01-21-2004 10:47 AM

do you mean the rhino-like creatures, or the trolls? If it was the rhino-things you ment, it could well be one of Melkors or Saurons malformed creatures.

Elrond of Rivendell

01-21-2004 10:51 AM

I think that this tread was mainly about the creatures, not about the trolls.

Did you read a description of a rhino-like beast or are you speaking about the creatures Peter Jackson showed us?

EfR

Noxomanus

01-21-2004 11:59 AM

I wondered about this too.
They look like this guy to me.PJ might have based them on brontotheres.

[Please post big images as links only [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]. Sharkû.]

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 2:04 PM January 21, 2004: Message edited by: Sharkû ]

Legolas

01-21-2004 01:48 PM

As mentioned before, possibly some products of Melkor from the First Age and before.

Thorongil

01-23-2004 01:59 AM

I did mean those in the movie, and it looked very much like som Melkor stuff, big, ugly and evil.

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