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Aldagrim Proudfoot 07-30-2002 07:37 AM

Evil Maiar
 
Did Morgoth recruit Maiar other than the Balrogs and Sauron?

Gayalondiel 07-30-2002 07:50 AM

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For of the Maiar many were drawn to his splendour in the days of his greatness, and remained in that allegiance down into his darkness; and others he corrupted afterwards to his service with lies and treachorous gifts. Dreadful among those spirits were the Valaraukar,
~Valaquenta: Of the Enemies

I'm not terribly well-versed in the Sil and HoME, so this might be wrong. But to me this passage suggests that there were many corrupted, and only some were Balrogs (Valaraukar). If the only other one was Sauron, I think it would have been more specific to that. So my guess is yes, he did [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

O'Boile 07-30-2002 09:19 AM

Yes, I would also guess that he did, although it is vauge. There is some speculation that other beings such as dragons may be corrupted Maiar, however I'm not sure if I believe that.

Galorme 07-30-2002 01:53 PM

It has been considered that the Werewolves and the Watchers at Cirith Ungol may be possesed with evil Maia. Personelly i feel that every Spirit in Ea was at one point a Maia, unless they came from one of the Mortal Folk.

kingangmar 08-01-2002 03:18 PM

I would also consider the corrupted Saruman "the many colored" who was himself one of the Istari , a group including Gandalf "the gray" who is definatly knowen to be Olorin THe Maiar. Saruman created his own Orc hosts and unamed perversions in the tower of Orthanc and desired Power no less than that of the dark lord himself thoroughly aligning hiself with the dark

burrahobbit 08-01-2002 03:21 PM

Morgoth didn't corrupt Saruman, though.

Manwe Sulimo 08-02-2002 09:28 AM

Remember Ossė?

(Yes, I know he was redeemed, but all the same....)

The Silver-shod Muse 08-05-2002 05:07 PM

Weren't the Wargs corrupted spirits?

Aldagrim Proudfoot 08-06-2002 07:21 AM

Yes, and so were werewolves, but that doesn't mean they were Maiar. It just means they were spirits.


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