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And came there never again as a living man.
My family watched disk two of the Fellowship of the Ring last night and just for fun I brought my own battered copy upstairs to the TV room and pointed out the inaccuracies. This has nothing to do with my question, but it is when I found this passage...
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I always took that to mean simply that he never returned there for the rest of his life.
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I think it is the same sort of seemingly ambiguous, poetic statement as the words about the Witch-King:
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So, you're saying that it is just a poetic statement, that it just means that Aragorn just didn't go there again? It has noting to do with him going there after death?
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Right. He may have returned there in thought, but never again in body.
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I'd never noticed that passage, or at least never gave thought to its implications. The question that I'm left with now is why did Aragorn, as King Elessar in the Fourth age, not ever visit Lothlorien? After the War of the Ring had ended, my impression was that he had spent much time travelling Middle-earth, even visiting the Shire. Was he simply too busy to ever return to Lothlorien?
One would think that his relationship with the elves, and his marriage to Arwen in particular, would almost necessitate a visit at some point... I wonder if there is a particular reason that he never returned? Was he unwelcome there? |
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Why would he have felt a pressing need to go back to Lórien? Nostalgia? He doesn't seem much disposed to that to me. Galadriel and Celeborn both were gone, and I don't see much to draw him back there. After all, Arwen was with him. |
Considering that it was at Cerin Amroth that Arwen in the end laid down to recive the gift of Eru to mortals, I am not that sure that Aragorn had no part in this as fea coming to her before he left for Mandos. We have seen such things before with Gorlim the Unhappy, traitor of Barahir, or Beleg comforting Túrin at Eithel Ivrin.
Respectfully Findegil |
Great post, Findegil, I was just thinking the same thing while reading through this.
Especially due to his deeds he may have been granted some time in Middle-earth to remain there until Arwen also passed away, so that they could embark onto this unknown journey together. This idea is also supported by the fact that Beren and Luthien died together on Tol Galen. As such, Arwen and Aragorn were then reunited at the place they first met... quite romantic. |
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future upon Aragorn's death. She just had to recall family history. |
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I've always thought that, with the passing of Nenya and Galadriel, Lothlorien ultimately faded away. The land itself may still exist, but it's nature altered in that it now admitted of change and decay. This was one reason, to me, why the site of Arwen's grave became lost to human knowledge.
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But you may be right, that this prefigures the death of Arwen on Cerin Amroth, and perhaps goes back to what Aragorn says just before he dies: Quote:
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