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Eönwë 02-06-2008 05:31 PM

Pronounciation
 
Need I say more?

edit: You might have seen this or this thread, and complain that I am making new posts, but they are not the same.

And I am especially referring to user names

Eomer of the Rohirrim 02-16-2008 02:26 PM

Are you asking about your own name? The diereses indicate that there are three syllables. So phonologically, I would suggest saying it as Ay-On-Wi.

Eönwë 02-17-2008 01:17 PM

Not just mine.

Anyway, wouldn't mine be more like ee-on-way or eh-on-weh?

Ibri's is a challenge though.:confused:

Legate of Amon Lanc 02-17-2008 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eönwë (Post 547748)
Anyway, wouldn't mine be more like ee-on-way or eh-on-weh?

Why can't the English people ever pronounce anything normally? ;)

I believe it should be e (as in "red") - on (as in "on" :D ) - vee (as in "veeery good!").

And Ibri should maybe tell us personally...

Macalaure 02-17-2008 04:12 PM

*is happy that the Elvish pronounciation of vowels is almost identical to the German one* :p

I think Eönwë is correct with eh-on-weh. The 'e' needs to be the way Legate said, but 'eh' is simpler and close enough. The 'w' definitely has to be pronounced as an English 'w' and not like a 'v'.

And now, for a challenge...:D
ee-bree-nee-theel-pah-thah-neh-zehl?

And for completeness' sake...
mahk-ahl-ow-reh

(the first 'th' in Ibri's name should be soft, and the 'r's should be trilled)

Finduilas 02-17-2008 04:27 PM

Actually, it sounds cool the German way. Go Germans!

Ibrîniðilpathânezel 02-17-2008 05:36 PM

Ibrîniðilpathânezel. Heck of a word. To the best of my knowledge, the circumflexes are used to indicate long vowel sounds rather than short, and the eth (ð) represents the voiced th, as in "them." Since precious little is known about Valarin, save for a few words and the fact that the Elves didn't like listening to it, one can presume that it doesn't follow all the same pronunciation rules as in Quenya or even Sindarin. There is no doubt at least one secondary accent in the word, given its length, but perhaps not -- that would certainly make a rather "alien" sound to lyrical Elvish ears. If one uses short i as in pin, short a as in pat, short e as in men, long I as in time, and long A as in day, and the ð as the th in them (indicated by an underscored th), then what I hear comes out as:

ih-brine-ih-thill-pa-thay-NEH-zell

In my head, it's a bit sing-songish, with very weak secondary accents on every other syllable, beginning with the first, and the strong accent on the penultimate.

More confusion, hmm??? :rolleyes:

Bêthberry 02-17-2008 06:54 PM

one syllabub, two syllabub, rub a dub dub
 
Well, Estelyn Telcontar and I have discussed the pronounciation of this user name: Groin Redbeard.

She favours the Tolkien pronounciation. I think he's having a bit of fun with our board rules and Tolkien's own linguistic legerdemain. :eek:


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