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The Might 03-08-2007 02:57 PM

Hobbit age?
 
Ok, so my question is pretty simple.
Did the Hobbits tend to live longer or less then in the past during the War of the Ring?
I mean, as far as Elves are concerned, age is not very important.
For Men, especially those of Numenorean descent or from the line of Dol Amroth, the life expentancy is clearly higher then in the case of other men, but still decreasing.
The Dwarves seem to have a pretty constant life expentancy as well, with some examples such as Dain II who lived more then usual.
But what of Hobbits?
Bilbo clearly is out of question, since only the Ring led to his great age. But the Old Took is a good example of a Hobbit reaching a venerable age.
I would find it logical that their lifespan should increase, considering their good living conditions, but I don't really know.
I'm eager to see your answers.

Elmo 03-08-2007 03:05 PM

I'm not sure about your question but I suppose obesity caused by the easy livin' in the Shire might have caused some decrease in life expectancy :p

But Hobbits due have a longer lifespan than normal humans yet aren't they meant to be basically the same. Do you think this is because Hobbits avoided the curse of Eru that he put on mankind at the beginning of their existence(gee all this stuff I've learnt just from reading a little bit of Morgoth's Ring :D )

Rhod the Red 03-08-2007 04:42 PM

Living in the swamps east of the Misty Mountains wouldn't give much of a life span, but in the green, healthy agriculture based Shire I bet their life span increased a few dozen years.

Raynor 03-08-2007 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hewhoarisesinmight
But Hobbits due have a longer lifespan than normal humans yet aren't they meant to be basically the same. Do you think this is because Hobbits avoided the curse of Eru that he put on mankind at the beginning of their existence(gee all this stuff I've learnt just from reading a little bit of Morgoth's Ring :D )

The letters, and not only, state that hobbits are a branch of Men. Is it anywhere stated that they avoided the curse of Eru you are reffering to?

The Might 03-09-2007 08:25 AM

Well, I'm not sure...
Taking a short look at Appendix D of LotR, it seems to me that the lifespan of the Hobbits of the Shire remained constant over the previous 300 years.
Clearly, their normal lifestyle very similar with that of other Hobbits led to a normal lifespan of 90-100 years. Few Hobbits are exceptions, Bilbo on one side due to the Ring, Lotho on the other because he died of an unnatural death.
So I think it seems pretty obvious that their lifespan didn't increase in the Shire. But as Rhod already mentioned, settling in a fertile area probably did help them live longer.

Elmo 03-09-2007 11:17 AM

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The letters, and not only, state that hobbits are a branch of Men. Is it anywhere stated that they avoided the curse of Eru you are reffering to?
No but I am guessing it wouldn't be in the hobbits character to worship Melkor.

Raynor 03-09-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by hewhoarisesinmight
No but I am guessing it wouldn't be in the hobbits character to worship Melkor.

IIRC from the letters, all Men are fallen. I don't think the branch of hobbits existed separately from the very beginning.


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