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the phantom 09-25-2005 10:17 PM

Article About Casting
 
A friend emailed this article to me the other day and I thought that it made some really good points, so I figured I would post it here to see if there were any other Downers who liked what it had to say about the movies.
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August 18, 2005

The Lord of the Rings was a blockbuster. The world-wide sales numbers are as follows- Fellowship of the Ring- $860,700,000, The Two Towers- $921,600,000, Return of the King- $1,129,219,252.

Those are some great numbers. All three of the movies are in the top ten in the world!

But, when you consider that the source material is the greatest novel that has ever been written (I don't think I need to back up that claim- it's a well documented fact), then the movies should have done a lot better than what they did. Surely it should've shot past Titanic to the number one spot. Titanic is based on a true story, for crying out loud! How could a story that has to stay within the bounds of this world ever compete with a story set in an imaginary world? It doesn't make sense.

So, why did The Lord of the Rings not live up to its potential?

Well, the answer is simple, and there is no way to tiptoe around the truth- the casting for The Lord of the Rings was an absolute disaster. Peter Jackson hired bad, unknown actors over experienced actors because he knew he wouldn't have to pay them as much.

Money over quality.

When I first saw the list of names, I hoped that they were all talented people just waiting for their breakthrough roles, but my hope was proven to be misplaced when the movies were released.

Christopher Lee, Ian McKellen, Ian Holm, Sean Bean, John Rhys-Davies, etc; the cast was a collection of obscure actors with not one shred of big-movie experience between them. No movie goer had heard of any of them, and for a good reason- they are terrible actors.

And at the least Peter Jackson should have hired an all British cast since he apparently wanted everyone to have a British accent (which was wrong, of course, everyone should've had a Quenya accent, or Numenorean accent, or something like that). Elijah Wood was the only Brit, and it was easy to tell. While Wood's accent was flowing and effortless, the rest of the cast sounded like an awful Monty Python impersonation. Ian McKellen's fake Brit accent was especially bad, and by the end of the movie Jackson had allowed McKellen slip back into his native Alabaman accent.

And Elijah, despite his good accent, was a terrible fit for Frodo. Frodo was, according to Tolkien, celebrating his 144th birthday in the beginning of The Lord of the Rings. By the end of the book, after his long journey, he is nearly 300. So why in the world would you cast a fourteen year old in that role? It makes no sense.

The part of Aragorn was one of the worst jobs of casting ever. In the book, he is described as extremely whiny and temperamental, but that is completely lost in the movies. In Professor Tolkien's novel, Aragorn spends pages upon pages wishing that Gandalf was still alive and that he didn't have to call the shots, and moping over the fact that his decisions were always wrong. Viggo Mortensen attempts to mope on a few occasions, but he just isn't good at it. A better choice for the role would have been Hayden Christensen (aka Anakin Skywalker of Star Wars). Hadyn could have brought the necessary whininess as well as a bit of extra height to the table (Aragorn was supposed to be roughly eight feet tall- Viggo misses that by over two feet).

Also, the movie seemed a bit old and stuffy (largely because of poor acting). With a few changes in the cast and some extremely minor tweaks to the story line, the movie could have made billions upon billions.

So here is the perfect cast for the movies-

Gandalf- This character was too easy to confuse with Harry Potter's Dumbledore- so obviously a change should have been made. I would've gone with a younger, "hipper" Gandalf. The perfect man for the task- Ashton Kutcher. He could add a bit of humor to the movie by "punking" other members of the Fellowship during their journey.

Sauron- The big baddie, the top nasty man, the epitome of evil... Who should've been cast in this role? A bald-headed Mike Myers.

Galadriel- Powerful and full of pride, someone you either love or hate, and someone who was always on Middle Earth's magazine covers. Who better for the part than Tiger Woods?

Aragorn- Peter Jackson and his staff could've done quite a bit with Aragorn. For instance, to update the movie a bit, Aragorn could be made into a medieval James Bond, and played by Pierce Brosnan.

Eowyn and Arwen- To continue the James Bond theme, these two could be the "Bond girls" of the movie. Otto wasn't bad, but Liv Tyler was just a horrible fit for Arwen. I mean- wasn't Arwen supposed to be pretty? No offense, but Tyler looks horrible. Perhaps Arwen could be played by beautiful, curly-haired hockey star Jaromir Jagr.

Elrond- To further expand the Bond theme, Elrond, Aragorn's authority figure, could be played by Judi Dench.

Saruman- Christopher Lee is too much of an upstart to bring the necessary gravitas to a role like Saruman. I would suggest Rowan Atkinson.

Now there is a great cast! That's a movie that could do billions instead of measly millions.

The Lord of the Rings by J. R. R. Tolkien is a timeless classic- one of the greatest works of literature in the history of the world. Its screen version deserves better actors than what it got.

-Pam Hotthen

About the author: Pam Hotthen is much smarter than you, therefore you are in no position to question any facts, figures, opinions, or uses of grammar, punctuation, and spelling in the article above.

The Perky Ent 09-25-2005 10:32 PM

...wow. No words...
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Sauron- The big baddie, the top nasty man, the epitome of evil... Who should've been cast in this role? A bald-headed Mike Myers.
And yes, Dr. Evil would have been perfect. Saruman could even be mini me

Eomer of the Rohirrim 09-26-2005 06:56 AM

I didn't quite get the point, but maybe there was none! It made me laugh, anyway.

Only thing I have to say is this: Rowan Atkinson as Saruman? That's not silly, that could work! :D

Bêthberry 09-26-2005 07:11 AM

As so often happens, a good concept is marred in the execution, which is laboured and obvious and occasionally trite, so that the latter part of the article becomes somewhat tedious to read, to be saved only by the inspired suggestions of Rowan Atkinson as Saruman and Judi Dench as Elrond.

:D

Essex 09-26-2005 09:00 AM

I have to admit I didn't realise it was a joke until
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Christopher Lee, Ian McKellen, Ian Holm, Sean Bean, John Rhys-Davies, etc; the cast was a collection of obscure actors with not one shred of big-movie experience between them. No movie goer had heard of any of them, and for a good reason- they are terrible actors.
:o and of course, Elijah is a well know English name......

Bêthberry 09-26-2005 02:45 PM

Seriously, how should one take a critic with the name of Pam Hotthen? With cream and hold the sugar or shaken and not stirred?

Kath 09-26-2005 03:45 PM

Oh I am so embarrassed. It took me until the bit where it said Elijah Wood was English to realise that it was in fact a complete joke! :rolleyes:

Very amusing though. Kept me entertained for a happy few minutes upon realising this person was not simply stupid.

Ainaserkewen 09-27-2005 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kath
Oh I am so embarrassed. It took me until the bit where it said Elijah Wood was English to realise that it was in fact a complete joke! :rolleyes:

That's me too. I finally caught on with Elijah Wood being British and Ian McKellen being from Alabama...

I didn't think it was all that funny. Especially in comparisan to that pointlesswasteoftime article 50 Reasons why LOTR Sucks.

The Perky Ent 09-27-2005 01:03 AM

...wait a minute? Judi Dench?!? :eek: I don't want to see a cross-dressing Saruman! The nerve :eek:

Tuor of Gondolin 09-27-2005 09:43 AM

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Sauron- The big baddie, the top nasty man, the epitome of evil... Who should've been cast in this role? A bald-headed Mike Myers.

And yes, Dr. Evil would have been perfect. Saruman could even be mini me
====================================

So let's see. If Sauron is Dr. Evil, then a meeting of Sauron with
the nazgul would be:
The Witch King of Angmar---Number Two (cries when Sauron berates him
for missing the Ring in Eriador)
2nd nazgul---Scott Evil
3rdnazgul---Frau Farbissina
etc.

By the way, would that make Gandalf Basil Exposition?

Lush 09-27-2005 03:25 PM

You mean McKellen's not from God's Country? I was nearly fooled. Suggest replacing Sauron with Michael Jackson next time around, if they're going to try to frighten anyone the substitution would work much better than giant eyeball, in my opinion.

Beanamir of Gondor 09-28-2005 01:51 PM

<------I would prefer Hayden over Pierce for Aragorn...

But would any of us mind seeing Ashton!Gandalf uncloaked?

Cailín 09-28-2005 02:21 PM

Huh. I see some sense in this casting. It would definitely sell.

Lhunardawen 09-29-2005 01:04 AM

I totally agree with Elijah's Brit accent being perfect. Don't you just love how he pronounced 'Mordor'? Mohwdoh, he said. Now that's excellent Elvish.

dancing spawn of ungoliant 09-29-2005 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by the phantom
About the author: Pam Hotthen is much smarter than you, therefore you are in no position to question any facts, figures, opinions, or uses of grammar, punctuation, and spelling in the article above.

Somehow that sounds awfully familiar...

Pam Hotthen...? Anyway, great article! :D

Neurion 09-29-2005 07:37 AM

By Boromir's begrimed bootstraps! :eek:

Thinlómien 09-29-2005 08:01 AM

It took for a while for me also to realize that the writer wasn't serious...
And it took a dancing spawn of ungoliant to realize a bit more about the writer...

But really, it made me laugh at some points.

the phantom 09-29-2005 11:00 AM

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It took for a while for me also to realize that the writer wasn't serious...
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Oh I am so embarrassed. It took me until the bit where it said Elijah Wood was English to realise that it was in fact a complete joke!
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That's me too. I finally caught on with Elijah Wood being British and Ian McKellen being from Alabama...
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I have to admit I didn't realise it was a joke until
Ha ha! That's what I wanted to see- how long until you knew it was not serious.
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upon realising this person was not simply stupid
You're wrong about that, Kath. I assure you, the author was 100% in silly/stupid mode during the 20 minutes that was spent slapping the thing together. If being surrounded by half a dozen giggling teeny-boppers didn't make the author sillier than usual, then surely all the sugar shots they had been doing did (sugar shots- you know those packets of sugar in restaurants for coffee that sit on the table, everyone takes one, tears off the top, and downs the whole thing, then you repeat about 10 or 15 times).

And, by the way, the one that got my friends and I was Jaromir Jagr as Arwen. We ended up on floor. Every time I click on that pic I just crack up.

And Spawn, you're a clever girl. But I'm afraid Beth beat you to it.

Tigerlily Gamgee 10-13-2005 01:08 PM

I thought it was serious right up until the part about Elijah Wood being the only real Brit. Up until that point, I was just like, "***?"
Oi!

ETA: Wow, strict! I can't even type a "w" followed by a "t" followed by a "f" on here! Whoaness.

Frodo Baggins 10-31-2005 07:11 PM

I was having my chain pulled until I read about McKellen's Alabamian accent. Then I realized 'twas a gag.


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