Elwë's and Olwë's Indisposition
 

Why were the Teleri's kings indisposed to help their "friends" the Noldor.
First Olwë refuses to grant passage to their friends the Noldor to ME and then Elwë refuses the Noldorian princes access to his kindom in ME save the sons of his kin Finarfin.
Elwë was supposed to be the "best friend" of Finwë, yet he offers no help to his sons.
Olwë's refusal was before the kinslaying and Elwë's refusal was before he had knowledge of the Kinslaying.
What's wrong with these people.

it seems to me olwe was concerned for the noldor and hoped against hope they may come to reason....the valar had ever looked out for the firstborn and olwe was not as hasty to turn against them...the refusal of his ships may also have been his subtle way of showing feanor how arrogant and uncooperative his refusal of the silmarils to the valar was.....
olwe's reaction seems a reasonable one to me, trying to keep his friends from what he feared would be a dark path....

why elwe would not grant finwe's kin entry i'm not sure....one would definitely assume he would welcome the sons of his friend....
on the other hand i assume he had become somewhat of a recluse in his kingdom of doriath, hiding behind melian's girdle all this time...so he may have felt too distanced from the noldor and would only grant passage to close family....
perhaps melian being maia may have also felt what she did not know of the kinslaying....this being of course speculation...she may have advised elwe against letting finwe's kin enter....
elwe however also doesn't strike me as the most congenial of elven lords, his treatment of beren, while he of course was not of the eldar, doesn't make him out to be someone easily gotten along with...
so even though we as readers know the noldor were in the wrong, seeing as elwe had no message of the kinslayings, his reaction is harder to understand than olwe's...

twinkle

Elwe was married to Melian, and she knew that something was wrong. So it was her that made Elwe forbid the Noldorne in his kingdom, since she knew that the Noldorne hadn't been totally straight. Melian says herself that the Noldorne appears to be messengers of the Valar, yet they carry no message from them. Elwe at least allowed Finrod and Galadriel into Doriath because they were his kin.

In a way, i agree with that. He chose the valar instead of his friends. I would have recommended that the Teleri would offer their ships as a Ferry system to carry the Noldor to ME, such as they did in the War of Wrath.
I think you're right. Elwe was an arrogant king.
This is just plain despicable. What about the benefit of the doubt. Face it, Elwe was jealous of the coming of so many princes from Valinor, eager for new kingdoms.

Elwe just wanted to protect his people. He knew Morgoth had come to Beleriand because of the Noldorne, and to him it seemed that if the Noldorne did not enter his realm, his people would not be endangered. Although Elwe was not the best king, he did what he thought was best for his people. And it is not despicable that he only allowed his kin into his realm. He did not know the consequence if he allowed the Noldorne in his kingdom.

Hmmmm. And i thought that it was the other way around.
He didn't even have the courtesy of speaking with neither Fingolfin or Maedhros. Was that very much to ask?

I must agree with those who have stated that Elwe was a proud and arrogant king. The fact that he would not even hold counsel with the Noldor not of his kin shows this. He had grown to be the most powerful elf in Middle Earth, and I think he wanted things to stay that way. Elwe saw the princes of the Noldor as a threat to his kingdom. Not that they would wage war on him and take his kingdom, but that maybe his people may be drawn to them. Elwe, alone of all elves remaining in Middle Earth, had seen the light of the two trees. He probably felt that these princes, who grew and thrived in the shadow of the trees and had the light of Aman in their faces, would have great strength, knowledge, skill, lore. Elwe may have feared that he might look diminished and weak when compared to the newcomers. And we know the princes, at least Feanor's sons, would have treated him this way, as one of lesser stature. It's a far-fetched theory, I know, but I think it makes a little sense.
I feel there were other issues as well. Elwe was usually swayed (and rightly so) by the wisdom and foresight of Melian and she knew that the coming of the Noldor brought dismal tidings for all of Middle Earth.
It is strange how Elwe's actions seem to follow Morgoth's intent of keeping the elves sundered from one another, even though Morgoth had not yet been able to poison Doriath.
As for Olwe, I'm not sure I understand him either. Although, I do like Twinkle's theory that Olwe tried to hinder the journey out of friendship, and not out of pride or anger. But, I also think that even asking Olwe to "loan" the Noldor his ships would be like asking Feanor if you could borrow his simarils. Feanor would not have given those up even if it meant that the light of the two trees would never be restored. Olwe would not give up his ships, even though it severed his friendship with the Noldor.
Well, those are my thoughts on yet another great topic brought up by Maedhros!

amyrlis, i agree on your take on Elwe and Olwe.
I don't think that all of the Sons of Feanor would have treated him that way. Maybe Caranthir the Dark, Curufin and Celegorn. I don't think that either Maedhros or Maglor would have done that.
I meant that if the Teleri would have used their ships as a Ferry system to the Noldor to transport them to ME. The Teleri would have been in charge of the ships at all times, just as they did while transporting the host of the Noldor and Vanyar in the War of Wrath.
Thanks.