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Elianna 10-03-2004 04:22 PM

Language Influences
 
We all know of the heavy influences of Finnish on Quenya and Welsh on Sindarin, but how do you think the other languages Tolkien knew influenced his Middle-earth languages?

I've found that in Númenor, they added '-nya' to the end of words to make it an affectionate diminuitive (ie 'onya': son plus this ending, and 'tatanya': father plus this ending.) These words are from "Aldarion and Erendis" in The Unfinished Tales. This seems similar to Russian, of which Tolkien had a working knowledge (ie Rodion -> Rodya, Sofya -> Sonya).

I've also noticed that Elvish 'ae', 'au', and 'ei' are pronounced the same as those vowel combonations would be pronounced in Latin.

What other connections have you guys made?

Boromir88 11-04-2004 08:58 PM

The language of Middle-Earth is one that isn't one of my more interested topics, but I did notice one thing, lol.

I believe this is an anglo-saxon based word, Sylvan-creatures of the "wood." Or "wooded creatures." I would imagine Tolkien used "Silvan" based off the anglo-saxon word, Silvan-elves, live in woods, fond of woods. Ya, lol.

Elennar Starfire 01-16-2005 09:05 PM

Well, I noticed a certain similarity between Cirth and Anglo-Saxon runes.

Elianna 01-17-2005 06:36 PM

Yeah, the Angerthas are based on Anglo-Saxon runes, but more interesting is that the Mode of Dale, used in The Hobbit on Thorin's Map, are exactly the futhork, as Anglo-Saxon runes are called.

And about what I said in my first post about Latin and Elvish being pronounced similarly: Tolkien meant to do that. In Appen. F, Tolkien explains that since Quenya was the "Elvish-Latin," he used the Latin pronounciation rules for Quenya (and some Sindarin).

Elennar Starfire 01-17-2005 08:29 PM

Hmm...I know the futhark. I shall have to go look at that again...


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