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Galadriel55 02-22-2016 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan (Post 703971)
A fair point, even though Lancelot and Galahad had their squires...

Gondor has no squires. Gondor needs no squires. :Merisu:

(But fair point too - he could at least have taken one trustworthy companion or squire.)

Zigūr 02-23-2016 03:59 AM

Is it not possible that Boromir himself refused to take an escort of any kind? To quote Gandalf:
"Boromir claimed the errand and would not suffer any other to have it. He was a masterful man, and one to take what he desired."
Galadriel55 noted this in terms of Boromir's pride, but perhaps he simply desired to go alone and, if any gainsaid him, he stood firm to his convictions. Perhaps he had a noble reasoning like "No other worthy man should be made to abandon the defence of Gondor on my account."

Kuruharan 02-23-2016 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Zigūr (Post 703976)
Galadriel55 noted this in terms of Boromir's pride, but perhaps he simply desired to go alone and, if any gainsaid him, he stood firm to his convictions. Perhaps he had a noble reasoning like "No other worthy man should be made to abandon the defence of Gondor on my account."

That could be, although it wouldn't speak well of his good sense.

Inziladun 02-23-2016 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan (Post 703978)
That could be, although it wouldn't speak well of his good sense.

Of course, we're talking about a guy who wanted to avoid Moria (about which he knew very little) by either walking in front of known traitor Saruman's front porch, or going hundreds of miles out of the way around the White Mountains. :rolleyes:

Belegorn 02-23-2016 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuruharan (Post 703978)
That could be, although it wouldn't speak well of his good sense.

This is a man who has been compared to Eärnur. He was that King who accepted the Witch-King's challenge at Minas Morgal with a small escort. Boromir was not an idiot but he'd be more the Crixus type from Spartacus, than say Spartacus.

Belegorn 02-23-2016 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Inziladun (Post 703979)
Of course, we're talking about a guy who wanted to avoid Moria (about which he knew very little) by either walking in front of known traitor Saruman's front porch, or going hundreds of miles out of the way around the White Mountains. :rolleyes:

Aragorn was not keen on entering Moria either. "I do not wish to enter Moria a second time." [A Journey in the Dark] The Hobbits and Legolas were of the same mind.

Inziladun 02-23-2016 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Belegorn (Post 703988)
Aragorn was not keen on entering Moria either. "I do not wish to enter Moria a second time." [A Journey in the Dark] The Hobbits and Legolas were of the same mind.

Yes, but none of them pretended they didn't know of Gandalf's news of Saruman's treason and Ring-lust.


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