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Grab Bag
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> Since the trivia types are now organised into groups, the Wight has asked me to start a Grab Bag thread. Any question you like, about any of Tolkien's works, is welcome. To start it off, what was the original purpose of Hithaeglir? </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000022>Gwaihir the Windlord</A> <IMG SRC=http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg BORDER=0 WIDTH=10 HEIGHT=10> at: 8/8/00 4:28:45 am |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Grab Bag Melkor wanted to deny Orome the possibility to ride futher into the east of ME. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Grab Bag Orome and ...? </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000022>Gwaihir the Windlord</A> <IMG SRC=http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg BORDER=0 WIDTH=10 HEIGHT=10> at: 8/10/00 12:35:40 am |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Grab Bag Well, the mountains slowed down the march of the elves from Cuiviénen into the west, but in the Silmarillion there is stated "[the Hithaeglir] were reared by Melkor to hinder the riding of Oromé." </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/onering.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both The Riding of Orome simply meant that Orome lead the Elves. The purpose of the Misty Mountains was actually to hinder the Elves who were with Orome, not Orome himself. So I accept the 'Riding of Orome' as an answer, but not simply Orome. Now you can ask! </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both OK, the "Grab Bag" seems to be the perfect location for this question: What is enscribed upon the tombstone of JRRT and his wife? </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/bluepal.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both http://pub17.ezboard.com/fplanettolk...opicID=2.topicpub17.ezboard.com/fplanettolkienforumjrrtolkien.showMessage?topicID= 2.topic</a> </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both On JRRT's tombstone is inscribed 'Beren' And on his wife's, 'Luthien'. I would like to dedicate my thanks to galpsi for providing me with this answer, and modestly letting me post it instead of him. (<img src=wink.gif ALT=";)"> ) </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both Galpsi, that is pretty much it, go on (If your not playing an Annatar and give the posting right to Gwaihir, that is) ! </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both You couldn't think of a nicer gift-giver than Annatar? Couldn't I have been Celeborn the magnanimous? Noooo! Annatar it is. We all know that somebody got impaled on a spike in New Zealand and the presumptive favorite is that it's Saruman impaled on some bit of his devlish machinery. Leaving aside the question of PJ's liberties, who do we know was done in by Saruman's "precious machinery"? </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both Beechbone. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both That's what Pippin thought. Ask us! </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both Cool. This was the second time already I used this answer correctly <img src=pimp.gif ALT=":hat"> If there existed an analogy between the Ruin of Doriath and the Nibelungenlied, what Middle-Earth river would be the counterpart to the Rhine, and why? </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both Sorry if I am misintentionally acting the fool here, but I would like this explained. <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":\"> </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both Alright, I should have explained in more detail. The river Rhine plays a prominent role in the saga of Siegfried and the Nibelungs. There is one river in Middle-Earth which played a role similar to the Rhine in the course of the Fall of Doriath. This means, they both were involved in a special event which occurred in both legends. Just think of the second part of Wagner“s opera... </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Both You know, Sharku, this question has been bugging me since I first read it. It seems to me that for any river in ME to play the role of the Rhein, it would have to be source of the Silmarils and set all of the fatal business in motion as the Rhein was the source of das Rheingold. Now I'm even less informed about the Silmarillion than I am about the Ring des Nibelungen, but I didn't think that the Silamrils were linked to any river in the same meaningful way that das Rheingold was. Nor even if the Nauglamir was the intended parallel do I quite understand it, for I thought that its material came out of Tirion rather than a river. I'm baffled! </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> No Comment I am worse off than galpsi here. Can anyone answer it? </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Galpsi came close, but bear in mind that, originally, the Rhine is not the _source_ of the Nibelungen-hoard, but, well...and there“s a river in ME who had the same function after Doriath fell. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of the Downfallen West
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Are you thinking of the Ascar, where most of Doriath`s treasure came to rest? It was renamed Rathloriel, which I think means Goldenbed. Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Yes! That“s exactly what I meant - the drowned Rheingold, the drowned treasure of Doriath. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of the Downfallen West
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Which character (in the Silmarillion) was forced to become `sinister`? Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Hahaha, have at you, Trickster!! BEREN, because he could no longer be dexter without his right hand, so he had to use the sinister, i.e. left one. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Spirit of the Downfallen West
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Good answer, Sharku. Maedhros would also have been an acceptable answer. Look into the http://www.fortunecity.co.uk/library/classiccourt/77/Mirror of Desire.</a> </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.games-workshop.co.uk/games/warhammer/undead/gallery/ghoulsb.gif WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Since this seems like a good thread for such questions, name at least two characters in LOTR of whom we know that they are gay! </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000003>Sharku</A> at: 8/18/00 2:30:30 pm |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Goodness gracious, Sharku. I hope you don't mean Sam and Frodo now, that would be too much. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.innotts.co.uk/gwde/Pictures/Fantasy/Vampire/0406020706700.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Of course not. Although Sam sometimes is a gay little fellow if you know what I mean. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wraith of Angmar
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment To give it away so that this doesn't turn into a discussion of sexuality, I think Sharku may be asking where JRRT might have described someone's actions as having been done gayly of someone that might have been described as gay (cheerful). I don't recall these exact references, but I know they exist. The Barrow-Wight (RKittle) <font size="2">I usually haunt http://www.barrowdowns.comThe Barrow-Downs</a> and The Barrow-Downs http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiMiddle-Earth Discussion Board</a>.</p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.innotts.co.uk/gwde/Pictures/Fantasy/Vampire/0406020706700.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment The references which lead to the correct answers are simple... </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wight
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Two people who are cheerful: <img src=roll.gif ALT=":rollin"> Tulkas, Legolas (Am I on the right track? Or is the Wight right. If so, I don't think I could answer this without a clue...) </p>Edited by <A HREF=http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_profile&u=00000022>Gwaihir the Windlord</A> <IMG SRC=http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/redeye.jpg BORDER=0 WIDTH=10 HEIGHT=10> at: 9/6/00 7:51:03 pm |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.innotts.co.uk/gwde/Pictures/Fantasy/Vampire/0406020706700.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Alright, Tulkas is really cheerful. But Legolas? The two I immediately thought of were Tom Bombadill (a "merry fellow") and Merry (name). But you got the 'point' behind this question, so, go on, Gwaihir. </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wraith of Angmar
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Got another question Gwaihir? Answer this one to ask it (or anybody): What was in the middle of the Anfauglith and what was it? The Barrow-Wight (RKittle) <font size="2">I usually haunt http://www.barrowdowns.comThe Barrow-Downs</a> and The Barrow-Downs http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiMiddle-Earth Discussion Board</a>.</p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.innotts.co.uk/gwde/Pictures/Fantasy/Vampire/0406020706700.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment Haudh-en-(ithinkitwas)-Ndengin, the hill which is raised from the casualties of the Nirnaeth Arnoediad (these were the two most difficult elven words, let me tell you...). </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wraith of Angmar
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: No Comment You got it! And that really is a tongue-twister! The Barrow-Wight (RKittle) <font size="2">I usually haunt http://www.barrowdowns.comThe Barrow-Downs</a> and The Barrow-Downs http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiMiddle-Earth Discussion Board</a>.</p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Shade of Carn Dūm
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask Sorry, guys. I'm not losing interest in the board, as you may think, but I'm kind of busy at the moment. Internet acces is running a bit low as well. Come the first of next month and I'll be seen around aas often as always! </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.innotts.co.uk/gwde/Pictures/Fantasy/Vampire/0406020706700.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask What was the special thing about Haudh-en-Ndengin, and mainly the circumstance that it stood in the middle of Anfauglith? </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask Do you mean the odd fact that the mound was covered by green grass amidst the desert? </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hungry Ghoul
Posts: 0</TD><TD><img src=http://www.innotts.co.uk/gwde/Pictures/Fantasy/Vampire/0406020706700.jpg WIDTH=60 HEIGHT=60></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask Yes I do! </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask Tolkien is much taken with the image of fruitful burial mounds as a kind of posthumous vindication. So much so that this theme alone could be a long and fruitful thread. Who is interred in Haudh in Gwanur? </p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Wraith of Angmar
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask Folcred and Fastred The Barrow-Wight (RKittle) <font size="2">I usually haunt http://www.barrowdowns.comThe Barrow-Downs</a> and The Barrow-Downs http://www.barrowdowns.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgiMiddle-Earth Discussion Board</a>.</p> |
<font face="Verdana"><table><TR><TD><FONT SIZE="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The Unquiet Dead
Posts: 0</TD><TD></TD></TR></TABLE> <img src="http://www.barrowdowns.com/images/posticons/wight.jpg" align=absmiddle> Re: Ask "and the enemies of Gondor feared to pass [Haudh in Gwanur]." Ask us! </p> |
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