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TheGreatElvenWarrior 10-30-2007 10:12 PM

Tolkien Names
 
Sooo... I was reading a thread and came up with an idea...

I was thinking, if you could name you child or pet or a living thing of you own a name from LotR or the Sil or a ME name ten what would they be... What names sound good to you?

For me
Girls:

Elanor Rose or Rose Elanor Gardener
Melian
Rosie Lobela

Boys:

Samwise Peregrin Gardener...and hopefully my last name will be Took
Estel
Samwise Patrick Gamgee...





Diamond18 10-31-2007 12:00 AM

I have two cats and their names are actually Merry and Pippin. But just about any Tolkien name would do for a pet.

I wouldn't want to saddle a person with something like Galadriel -- way too obvious and likely to be mispronounced. Most of the names are like that. I like the simpler names like Elanor and Rosie and Sam. Diamond is a little on the odd side but still workable. Eomer, Eowyn, Boromir, and Faramir are iffy: I like them, but would I actually name a child that? Probably not....

Thinlómien 10-31-2007 03:34 AM

My and mys sister's tortoise's name is Myytti Vaappu Konnanheimo-Reppuli, which could be translated as Myth Waddle Toadsville-Baggins... .... And I just realised two of our fish are named Merri (Merry) and Pippin. (They are ugly, small and fat catfish who swim upside down...)

Legate of Amon Lanc 10-31-2007 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien (Post 534955)
My and mys sister's tortoise's name is Myytti Vappu Konnanheimo-Reppuli, which could be translated as Myth Waddle Toadsville-Baggins...

Good that it's not a dog. I can't imagine anyone calling a name like that. Tortoises have the advantage that, normally, they are not called as often as the dogs.

My cousins used to have two hamsters, named Arwen and Galadriel. When I was litt... well, younger, I wanted a dog whom I would name Huan or something like that. Later, I wanted a smaller, possibly wolf-spitz dog whom I would name Isengard (in English, so exactly how you read it). But nowadays, I don't think having a dog would be a good idea, whatever he'd be called. Dog just takes too much of your time, and to be honest, I am not particularly fond of dogs. Maybe I could say that I wanted the dogs more because of the names I could give then than the dogs themselves :rolleyes:

TheGreatElvenWarrior 11-04-2007 08:37 PM

Yes, if I named my child Rose or Elanor nobody would know where it came from, unless they found out, or were really smart (or knew me really well)!

If I even liked dogs, Haun would be a good name, he was faithful.

Lindale 11-05-2007 01:08 AM

My dad named our dogs Arwen and Aragorn, and their kids Beren and Luthien... but I think it's an effect of too many years not reading Tolkien!

I used the name "Yaviendale" sometimes for a pseudonym for some random bits in our campus stuff. Roughly, it is Song of the Gift or Gift from the Song. :)

Thinlómien 11-05-2007 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc (Post 534967)
Good that it's not a dog. I can't imagine anyone calling a name like that. Tortoises have the advantage that, normally, they are not called as often as the dogs.

Well, maybe not as often but often enough. Usually we just call him Myytti (or with some idiotic pet name...).

If I had a cat I'd love to name him Tevildo. And if I had a female spider, she would most definitely be Shelob.

Legate of Amon Lanc 11-05-2007 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Thinlómien (Post 535332)
And if I had a female spider, she would most definitely be Shelob.

And if it were a male spider, he could be named Lazy Lob or Crazy Cob (or how the names were). If I had a male spider, I would definitely name him like that. This song was my favourite in the Hobbit from the moment when I first read it and it was at first the main reason why I wanted to have the book. Concerning the name of the spider, I don't have that affinity with the English ones, but in Czech the names were Bubřináč and (blbý) Bublina. I preferred Blbý Bublina and maybe I'd name even some other animal than spider like that (a dog, for example). In translation it means "stupid bubble". I consider this name incredibly cute and for example using it for a small, a little bit stupid puppy dog would've been great (and maybe it could be used even for animals such as tortoise or a very fat old cat. But in the latter case, it would be a pejorative use).

Guinevere 01-02-2008 05:20 AM

A male spider ought to be called "Helob" :D
(Inspired by Maggie Honeybite's hilarious fanfiction "Spiders in the Mist" whose protagonists are called Helob and Morliant.)

I personally wouldn't fancy giving any noble Elven or human names to pets.
Huan for a dog would be very appropriate, though, or think of all the great names for horses: Arod, Hasufel, Shadowfax, Roheryn, Firefoot, or Stybba for a pony.

As for naming children - well, it's too great a responsability, I think, to saddle them with Middle-Earth names for life that might be the subject of ridicule later...

Our sailboat already got a name before my Tolkien-obsession ("Guinevere", btw) or else there would be a number of great names to choose from (from U.T mostly)! At least I have named our dinghi "Entulessë" (meaning "return")

TheGreatElvenWarrior 01-05-2008 07:40 PM

What about a name for a cat, my family wants to get another cat or two(if my dad will allow it)

Lalwendë 01-06-2008 02:42 PM

Everyone thought we'd pick a Tolkien name for t'child, but we reckoned it might be mean. As it is, his name does have Tolkien connections, but also many others and can be shortened to something currently popular for little boys anyway so he won't stand out as an odd-bod at school - so it's good all round :D

Sam is a good name though, not too odd at all. And Rosie and Elanor are also not too weird. Merry could also be used - the child could be named Meredith, which is quite a nice name, and Merry used as her pet name. I actually know someone who has daughters named Rose and Eleanor.

As for pets, you can go mad, so long as it's not something you'd feel embarrassed shouting out of the back door. Standing there raddling a fork in a cat food can and yelling at the top of your lungs: "Teleporno! Come and get your meat!" might have your neighbours' net curtains twitching...

TheGreatElvenWarrior 01-06-2008 05:04 PM

Well I think that Merry and Pippin are cute names, but first you would need two male animals (in my case cats) and they probably get used overly much.

Guinevere 01-08-2008 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatElvenWarrior (Post 542259)
What about a name for a cat?

How about Beruthiel? Too bad that no names of Queen Beruthiel's cats are known!
Or Tevildo, as Thinlómien suggested... ( The prototype of Sauron was Tevildo, Prince of Cats, in the earliest version of the story of Beren and Lúthien in The Book of Lost Tales.)

It seems that Tolkien was less than fond of cats...
Apparently in 1959 a cat breeder had asked if she could register a litter of Siamese kittens under names taken from the LotR. Tolkien's comment was:
Quote:

letter 219
I fear that to me Siamese cats beong to the fauna of Mordor
:D

In a postscript to letter 309, however, he wrote a little verse that suggests that the Tolkiens did have a cat at that time:
Quote:

J.R.R.Tolkien
had a cat called Grimalkin:
once a familiar of Herr Grimm,
now he spoke the law to him.
(Grimalkin was the name of the witches' cat in Macbeth)

In another letter (#342 and #345) he wrote an answer to a cattle breeder who asked if she could use "Rivendell" as a herd prefix and use LotR names for bulls and cows:
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letter #342
I should be interested to hear what names you eventually choose (as individual names?) for your bulls; and interested to choose or invent suitable names myself if you wish. The elvish word for 'bull' doesn't appear in any published work; it was MUNDO.
letter#345
Personally I am rather against giving strictly human and noble names to animals; and in any case Elrond and Glorfindel seem unsuitable characters, for their names which meant (1) 'The vault of stars' and (2) 'Golden hair' seem inapt. I recently played with the notion of using the word for bull I gave you, which introduced in the form -mund gives a fairly familiar sound (as in Edmund, Sigismund, etc.), and adding a few Elvish prefixes, producing names like Aramund ('Kingly bull'), Tarmund ('Noble bull'), Rasmund ('Homed bull'), Turcomund ('Chief of bulls'), etc. I wonder what you think of these?
Arwen was not an elf, but one of the half-elven who abandoned her elvish rights. Galadriel ('Glittering garland') is the chief elvish woman mentioned in The Lord of the Rings; her daughter was Celebrían ('Silver queen'). There was also Nimrodel. But I shouldn't really like these names to be given to heifers or cows. If you care for the Aramund type, I could invent a few female names. But though it is made on classical models rather than elvish, wouldn't the name of Farmer Giles' favourite cow – Galathea (in Farmer Giles of Ham) – be useful? which as it stands might be interpreted 'Goddess of milk'.
Really very nice and helpful, wasn't he!


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