Hurt and Heal Round 3
 

Okay let's start taking nominations. This round will be only from characters that appear in Lord of the Rings.

The rules will be the same as last time as it seemed to work well enough.

From 20 to 7 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts are allowed.

From 6 to 4 - each player has 3 votes: 2 hurts and 1 heal. Double hurts ar not allowed: a player has to hurt 2 different characters and heal one, or he may use only 1 hurt and 1 heal.

When but 3 characters are left each player has either a hurt or a heal.

Wait for at least four posters to vote prior to you voting again.

These rules can change whenever deemed appropriate.

Let's begin nomination but go easy on them so as to not monopolize the decisions.

I proudly and unabashedly nominate Samwise Gamgee and Glorfindel.

I'll second Glorfindel.

And let's not have all the same people as last time. I nominate-
Gildor
Imrahil
Ioreth
Fatty
Celeborn

EDIT: made list much smaller

Characters:
Glorfindel
Imrahil


I second Imrahil.

I nominate Faramir (REVENGE on PJ !)
(picture Michael Palin to Kevin Kline
at the end of A Fish Called Wanda)

Rosie Cotton
Barliman Butterbur

I nominate:

Gaffer Gamgee
Lobelia
Nob
Gríma
Erkenbrand
Gollum
Denethor
Elladan and/or Elrohir
The Mouth of Sauron

I second:

Fatty Bolger

I nominate Halbarad and Bill the Pony

I would second Nob

Characters:
Glorfindel
Imrahil
Fatty Bolger
Nob

Second Halbarad and also nominate Gilraen. I presume Apendices count?

Do we vote based just on their LOTR merit? (this only applies to elves)

I second Gaffer

I second-
Faramir
Erkenbrand
Denethor
Gilraen (if Gilraen is allowed)

I second Sam, Gollum and Grima

I nominate:

Khamûl
Saruman

So, if I am not mistaken, the lists for now look like that:

Got 1 vote:
Gildor
Ioreth
Celeborn
Rosie Cotton
Barliman Butterbur
Lobelia
Elladan and/or Elrohir
The Mouth of Sauron
Bill the Pony
Khamûl
Saruman

Got 2 votes:
Glorfindel
Imrahil
Denethor
Erkenbrand
Faramir
Fatty Bolger
Gaffer Gamgee
Gilraen (if Gilraen is allowed)
Gollum
Gríma
Halbarad
Nob
Samwise Gamgee

I second Elladan and/or Elrohir and propose they count as one as they are not very indivdualistic.

I second Bill the Pony

and I nominate Bergil

Second Lobelia and Saruman.

Third(?) Bill the Pony

Nominate:
Caradhras the Cruel
Goldberry

Updated list

1 vote:
Gildor
Ioreth
Celeborn
Rosie Cotton
Barliman Butterbur
The Mouth of Sauron
Khamûl
Caradhras the Cruel
Goldberry
Bergil

2 votes:
Bill the Pony
Denethor
Elladan and/or Elrohir
Erkenbrand
Faramir
Fatty Bolger
Gaffer Gamgee
Gilraen
Glorfindel
Gollum
Gríma
Halbarad
Imrahil
Lobelia
Nob
Samwise Gamgee
Saruman

We have three more places, it seems.

Sam was on the first list - weren't we trying to avoid those?

I second Caradhras the Cruel and nominate Dain II Ironfoot.

I must say I second Dain II Ironfoot
one of the more remarkable (and generally
overlooked) of dwarves, and the owner
of yet another cool moniker.

Btw, there's this tidbit about dwarf armor related to
him, indicating one reason for dwarf prowess in battle:

I second Bergil

1 vote:
Gildor
Ioreth
Celeborn
Rosie Cotton
Barliman Butterbur
The Mouth of Sauron
Khamûl
Caradhras the Cruel
Goldberry


2 votes:
Bill the Pony
Denethor
Elladan and/or Elrohir
Erkenbrand
Faramir
Fatty Bolger
Gaffer Gamgee
Gilraen
Glorfindel
Gollum
Gríma
Halbarad
Imrahil
Lobelia
Nob
Samwise Gamgee
Saruman
Dain II Ironfoot
Caradhas the Cruel
Bergil

so unless there are any major objections to this, such as Rikae with Sam. Does anybody else have a major concern with this? Let us move on and begin to vote. Let's wait at least a few hours to allow people to express their opinion. As much as I love Sam I'm okay if he's not on as I don't know how I will handle two oustings.

Personally I am in favor of no repeats at his point. There are still plenty of characters available.

And I will second Caradhras.

And what, no one likes Gildor enough to second him? He actually had some lines in LotR.

I have seconded Sam, but I have no problem with removing him.
We can choose someone else...:)

If Sam goes, I'll second Gildor as I see we are very low on elves.

I will second

Goldberry
Butterbur

and nominate

Harry Goatleaf
Eomer

The official list
 

Sam goes and Gildor is in. Let the voting begin.

Double hurt Caradhas, something about a mountain with his own will just doesn't seem right. Heal Glorfindel

Bergil (10)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (8)
Dain II Ironfoot (10)
Denethor (10)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (10)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (10)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (10)
Imrahil (10)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (10)
Saruman (10)


Good nominees Kent but sorry as our limit was set at 20.

Hurt the creepy Grima and Nob. What sort of name is that?
Heal Imrahil.

Bergil (10)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (8)
Dain II Ironfoot (10)
Denethor (10)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (10)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (10)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (9)
Halbarad (10)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (9)
Saruman (10)

Hurt the pointy-eared loafer Gildor. Hurt the mountain.
Heal Denethor.

Bergil (10)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (7)
Dain II Ironfoot (10)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (10)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (9)
Halbarad (10)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (9)
Saruman (10)

Hurt Dain and Halbarad, heal Gríma

Bergil (10)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (7)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (10)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (9)
Saruman (10)

Double-hurt Gerbil.
Heal Caradhras--the Mountain does not move! :p

Bergil (8)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (8)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (10)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (9)
Saruman (10)

Hurt Nob and Bill the Pony

Heal Caradhras

Bergil (8)
Bill the Pony (9)
Caradhas the Cruel (9)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (10)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)

Hurt Denethor Hurt Elladan and/or Elrohir
Heal Caradhras (a towering presence in this contest)

Bergil (8)
Bill the Pony (9)
Caradhas the Cruel (10)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (10)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)

Double hurt Caradhras, Heal Denethor

Bergil (8)
Bill the Pony (9)
Caradhas the Cruel (8)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)

Come on now- it's cool to have a mountain in the running! And remember, he defeated the Fellowship. He's a big bad rock.

Heal Caradhras, Hurt Gaffer, Hurt Gollum

Bergil (8)
Bill the Pony (9)
Caradhas the Cruel (9)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (9)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (9)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)

Heal Bergil Double hurt the grumpy stone

Bergil (9)
Bill the Pony (9)
Caradhas the Cruel (6)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)

I would be willing to save Caradhras, but we should come up with some agreed targets. I have a funny story about a rather large rock...I just wish that rock was as alive as Caradhras, we might have won. :rolleyes:

I would not be willing to eliminate Gollum, but any of the other hobbits wouldn't bother me. Lobelia is somewhat of an interesting character, but she's expendable.

*jumps in*

Heal Bill the Pony. Hurt Saruman and Grima.

Bergil (9)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (6)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (10)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (9)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (9)

Double hurt Fatty, heal Grima.

Bergil (9)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (6)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (8)
Gaffer Gamgee (10)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (9)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (10)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (9)

Double hurt Gildor, heal Saruman

+ add the overlooked phantom's votes (see above: Heal Caradhras, Hurt Gaffer, Hurt Gollum)

Bergil (9)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (7)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (8)
Gaffer Gamgee (9)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (7)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (9)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)

Hurt Fatty and hurt Gildor

Heal Caradhras

Bergil (9)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (8)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (7)
Gaffer Gamgee (9)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (6)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (9)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)

Double-hurt Gildor,
Heal Fatty Bolger.

Bergil (9)
Bill the Pony (10)
Caradhas the Cruel (8)
Dain II Ironfoot (9)
Denethor (11)
Elladan and/or Elrohir (9)
Erkenbrand (10)
Faramir (10)
Fatty Bolger (8)
Gaffer Gamgee (9)
Gilraen (10)
Gildor (4)
Glorfindel (11)
Gollum (9)
Gríma (10)
Halbarad (9)
Imrahil (11)
Lobelia (10)
Nob (8)
Saruman (10)