oh yeah 1 and 2...well I got 2 things wrong

1. I misread the title of the thread as one truth and two lies and
2. I misread 2. as he never contacted the Ithil-stone with his own...:eek: I am kinda tired

Seems that everyone's wits were sleepy :) But good, take the thread.

Ok, here's the three statements:

1. The Druedain didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring.
2. Elves of Rivendell didn't attack any Orcs during the War of the Ring.
3. The Dunlanders were not spared after the Battle of the Horburg.

I still think we should try come up with a way to make this more difficult.

i'm going to go with 3, because i remember in TTT that the Rohirrim granted amnesty to the Dunlendings who were taken aback, after being taught that the Rohirrim were monsters.

*poke*
 

Might?

Sorry, yes Gil, you're right.

Please take the thread. I would be interested to see though if you know why #1 isn't false. Legate isn't allowed to answer.

:D :D :D Don't worry, I'm not saying anything, but you made me laugh.

Well Gil, you can take it even without explaining that. :D

Well Legate as Gil is gone, go ahead and tell us what I had in mind and post a new one too.

Well there is at maximum presumed that they got some of Saruman's Orcs after the Battles at the Fords of Isen. Normally they don't fight, they hunt.

Hmm... okay.

1. Boromir was not brought to Rivendell by horse.
2. Saruman was not the first hostile force to hold Isengard.
3. Celeborn did not have any siblings.

First one is a lie, not because I remember it, but because the other two are truths.
The Dunlendings were in Isengard before Saruman and Celeborn had a brother I believe.

So you say first one is a lie? That's not correct.

Funny, because the first one being true was the only one I could recall. Maybe I'll guess as well. Is 2 the lie?

Oh, if I look at my post, I can see the stupidity.
Well 1 and 2 are correct then and 3 is wrong, because it is a lie that he had no siblings.

2 is not a lie as well. Now I guess it's obvious. :D #3 is a lie and TM in fact said it, only he jumped to a wrong conclusion: Celeborn HAD a brother. #3 says that he DIDN'T have a brother. So it's false.

So what? Should I post a new one or let TM have it? If you wish you may post, TM. If you don't, then I will post something else.

Only let me say that this shows one thing: One should also READ WELL the question. This happens all the time when someone misreads a question or sentence (especially when there are double negations involved, like in this case).

EDIT: x-ed, yes, correct, have the thread, TM.

Very well...

Aeglos is:

A. a plant
B. a weapon
C. a river

C is wrong...

Indeed.

1. Morgoth was not hurt more than nine times between his resettling in Angband and the War of Wrath.
2. Thorin's cousin did not fight in the Battle of the Five Armies.
3. Aragorn's crown was not originally Anárion's helmet he wore during the time of the Last Alliance.

Bah, I hate negations.

Anyway, the last one is true, it was not Anarion's helmet as this was crushed by a stone thrown from Barad-dur (I still find this the most stupid death in the books)
About Morgoth...he was hurt by Fingolfin eight times and Thorondor hurt him once. So only nine times I believe, meaning this is true as well.
The second is a lie, because he never had a cousin in the first place.

So you say the second one is a lie? No, it is true. If he didn't have a cousin, of course his cousin didn't fight in the battle of the Five Armies.

I always get you in this one, Miggy :p

Ah yes, how can I be so foolish...
Not because of the cousin thing, but because of Melkor.
He was wounded by Beren (indirectly) after he cut a Silmaril from his crown.
So it means that 1 is the lie.

Good, very good! I'm impressed! (Or should I rather say: "Good, good!" and "Impressive. Most impressive!" ? ;) ) I expected this question will be solved by an ellimination method, and not by direct revealing the concrete flaw. Please continue.

Indeed...but you are not a loremaster yet. :D

Ok, so here goes:

A. A palantir could be held in any position to see something.
B. The chain Isildur used for the Ring was found.
C. Only one messenger made it to request help from the Eotheod.

A is wrong. It had to be aligned and the other two are right.

Indeed.
It did seem to me like a very curious "coincidence" that Pippin was looking exactly in that direction...

Anyway, please take the thread.

As we know too well, such "coincidences" happen in Middle-Earth quite often (well, not as often on the large scale, but in this particular... hmm... flow of events).

Okay:

1. Only two men survived the disaster at Gladden Fields.
2. There is a tree (described in Tolkien's books) that blossoms in winter.
3. Galadriel visited Khazad-Dum at least once.

Well, a quite difficult one.

Anyway,
1. Is correct I believe, these were Ohtar who made it to Rivendell with the shards of Narsil and Estelmo who was clubbed and seemed to be dead.

2. Not sure.

3. I am very puzzled of this question. I am sure that you are aware that according to one version of the story Galadriel she didn't pass through Khazad-dum, while in another she did. Ok, I say this may be true, thus making number 2 false.

I am aware of everything ;) But I have to disappoint you: number 2 is correct (there was such a tree brought by the Elves to Númenor) :)

Is this supposed to be a hint or the answer?

Probably, you mean mallorns, though I thought they blossomed in spring.
That probably means 3 is false.

No, you have failed, my friend. 1 is false. 2 is correct and 3 is correct as well (in one version, which cannot be discarded). But mainly, 1 is false because there were THREE men who survived: Ohtar had one "friend" and Estelmo survived longer on the place and came back later (according to The Disaster at Gladden Fields; according to the Council of Elrond we are simply said that there were three of them and not if they came together or each by himself).

By the way, to the "2", I meant this:
Okay, since the answer was not correct, I'm posting another one :)

1. Saruman was at least once further eastwards than Lórien.
2. Gandalf never visited Angmar.
3. Men of Angmar at least once entered the Shire.

1 I was indeed wrong about.
2 "Its leaves, like those of the beech but greater, were pale green above and beneath were silver, glistering in the sun; in the autumn they did not fall, but turned to pale gold. In the spring it bore golden blossom in clusters like a cherry, which bloomed on during the summer; and as soon as the flowers opened the leaves fell, so that through spring and summer a grove of malinorni was carpeted and roofed with gold, but its pillars were of grey silver. Its fruit was a nut with a silver shale." These quotes somehow seem to be in contradiction, but indeed such a tree existed.
3 I am quite disappointed of you considering this to be true. As long as it can't be discarded it can also not be labeled as true, as long as other versions exist and there is no certainty about which one would have been the right one.


1 Is true, he went to the East with the Blue Wizards.
2 "but ever went to and fro in the Westlands from Gondor to Angmar, and from Lindon to Lórien, befriending all folk in times of need"
3. Is thus false.

So you say 3 is false? No, that is not correct. Miggy... :rolleyes: ;)

And concerning the previous one, the main point was that 3 may or may not be true (depending on the version you pick), but, and that's 100%, the first one is NOT true. And since we are looking for one thing that is definitely not right, this is the one.

I never don't hate your negations...and I thought I was good in English.
1. is true
2. is false
and so 3 is true as well

Now it finally isn't incorrect. Please continue :D

Btw, it reminds me of THIS

You don't want to not vote for John Kerry?

Miggy, give us sumthin'...

Reviving this thread...
 

1. Charchost was built by the Men of Gondor.
2. Beregond was the son of Beren.
3. Frodo was Bilbo's nephew.

2 is a lie.

Gotcha!:p

That was in fact a trick question. (Wrong Beren!)