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Loke 01-05-2004 05:31 PM

Why did the Men and Dwarves accept Sauron's Rings?
 
why did the kings of man elves and dwarfs agree to recive the rings from sauron. What was so special whit these rings?? Did they haw any power?

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 6:34 PM January 05, 2004: Message edited by: Loke ]

[edited to name the thread properly. Sharkū]

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Gil-Galad 01-05-2004 05:34 PM

They were greedy basically, and the easterlings looked up to Sauron as a god, and to haev a ring of power is to be a god, i na way

The Dark Elf 01-05-2004 06:50 PM

The Other Rings were supposed to be used to govern those races. It probably made them easier to conquer because the One Ring controlled all others therefore controlling the races. I dont know what happened to the 7 dwarves, but the 9 men became ringwriaths

swordspoken 01-07-2004 09:37 AM

The dwarves mines/treasure places were slowly taken over by dragons like Smaug or for other reasons. I don't think Sauron was known as evil at that time.

Altariel 01-07-2004 12:28 PM

Men and Dwarves accepted the Rings out of greed; the mortal Men wanted power and the Dwarves... mm.. riches, probably. And that was exactly what Sauron offered them. They didn't have the power of the Elves to see through that slick facade of Sauron's. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

The Rings were Rings of Power, so they did have some power over the wearer. Plus, the One Ring Sauron made so that he would have power over all the other rings, and hence, over their wearers... by accepting the rings, the men and dwarves inadvertently submitted to Sauron's will. A nasty surprise, I guess...

Oh, and the Elves took off the Rings when they recognized Sauron for what he really was.

<font size=1 color=339966>[ 1:29 PM January 07, 2004: Message edited by: Altariel ]

master_of_puppets 01-07-2004 12:57 PM

id have to say that at the time neither the men or dwarves were aware of the true intent of Sauron or the fullness of his evil. i believe greed was involved, the desire to rule over their race was definately a striving fource. the men, at least, were no saints to begin with. and as they say, the minds of the weak are easily corrupted- which is exactly what happend.

Carrūn 01-07-2004 03:00 PM

For the "great kings of men" the most likely reason is the desire for increased power, potentially the ability to stave off old age and hold on to their domains.

For dwarves it would be the promise riches lost and riches to gain.

I don't think the elves took off the Rings - they were hidden from Sauron and those were the only three of the rings of power he didn't touch. However Frodo later sees Galadrial wearing her ring so they still wore them (Galadrial, Elrond & Gandalf (Cirdan)).

The Saucepan Man 01-07-2004 05:38 PM

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I don't think the elves took off the Rings - they were hidden from Sauron and those were the only three of the rings of power he didn't touch. However Frodo later sees Galadrial wearing her ring so they still wore them
They took of their Rings when they realised that Sauron had made the One Ring, to which the other Rings of Power were subservient, so as not to be ensnared by him. The bearers of the Elven Rings were able to wear them once again when Sauron lost the One Ring.

Oroaranion 01-10-2004 01:10 PM

The Dwarves lost most of their rings to Dragons, as has been said.
But if you read in Appendix A - (III) Durins Folk, it will tell you what came of the Seven rings. I believe the Dwarves still had on ring at teh time of Sauron, but that was lost as someone went to avenge their father's death.

Arothir 01-10-2004 01:36 PM

I believe that is Thrain son of Thror. Thror had gone to Moria, but first he gave Thrain his Ring. Later, Thrain went wandering with the Ring. He was found by the Necromancer and had the Ring stolen from him. That can be found in Appendix A Durin's Folk.


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