Elves and Music
If elves still existed and made songs, then they would live in Ireland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VG6bi04-cUA My young love said to me my mother won't mind, And my father won't slight you for your lack of kind, He went away from me and this he did say, 'It will not be long love till our wedding day.' He went away from me and he moved through the fair, And slowly I watched him move here and move there, He went his way homeward with one star awake, As the swan in the evening moves over the lake. The people were saying no two were e'er wed But one has a sorrow that never was said, And I smiled as she passed with her goods and her gear, And that was the last that I saw of my dear. I dreamt last night that my young love came in, He came in so sweetly, his feet made no din; He stepped up beside me, and this he did say, 'It will not be long love, till our wedding day.' |
*sigh of yearning*
Thanks for the link! Makes me regret very much that I probably won't have the means and/or time to go there anywhere in the near future - but it also conjured up fond memories of Wales, which is very similar in some places. And most of the video would also have fitted very nicely into the 'I see Middle-earth'-thread. Quote:
Which reminds me of something else*. In many regions of Germany (and possibly other European countries as well?), we have folk tales about elves, dwarves, brownies or other faerish beings leaving the country in large numbers. The reasons given for this exodus vary - sometimes it's us humans growing too numerous and filling all the formerly quiet places, sometimes it's the spreading of Christianity and the sound of church bells which the fairies couldn't stand - , but most of the stories involve a ferryman who shipped the emigrants across a great river and was rewarded in gold or silver enchanted to appear as dirt or leaves at first sight. Quite often the river is the Rhine, meaning that the exodus was headed westwards. So if the fairies emigrated from central/continental Europe and kept moving westwards, where would they eventually end up (short of sailing across the Great Sea)? In the British Isles and Ireland. *(I have a sort of phantom memory of mentioning this on another thread before, but no idea where and when this could have been.) |
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Great song by the way. Some other versions...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zr_hhkY4Bnk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdrqkMvCx3I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy3uG_MhNxc Just a few. |
What sounds most "Elvish" to me is Enya's music, and many of her songs. (I discovered her only thanks to "May it be" and "Aniron" in the Fellowship movie!)
Especially "Exile" seems to me connected with Elvish sea-longing, also because of the lyrics: "My light shall be the moon and my path - the ocean. My guide the morning star as I sail home to you." (Although the video to the youtube clip suggests something quite different, but I heard the song without that first) |
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As you said, many of her songs have an Elvish feel. "Paint the Sky With Stars" sounds perfect for the voyage of Gandalf, Elrond and Co. to the Blessed Realm. Suddenly before my eyes / Hues of indigo arise / With them how my spirit sighs / Paint the sky with stars / Only night will ever know / Why the heavens never show / All the dreams there are to know / Paint the sky with stars / Who has paced the midnight sky? / So a spirit has to fly / As the heavens seem so far / Now who will paint the midnight star? |
How did Tolkien's Elves become associated with that style of music?
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It's difficult to describe why I hear it that way. It's easier to listen and say, 'Ah, now that's what I mean'. I think it has something to do with the vocals having an ethereal, somewhat eerie quality, coupled with such strong melodies that manage to have an ancient feel to them. |
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But is there any basis to this in Tolkien's writing?
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At any rate, it's all opinion as to what sounds 'Elvish' to an individual listener. For me, Enya probably is the nearest to it. |
One of the finest discussions I've ever seen of music and Middle-earth is by our own Aiwendil. A revised version of this paper will, I believe, be in Estelyn's forthcoming book on Music in Middle-earth, but for now here's the early version: A Speculative History of Music of Arda. :cool:
A really superb analysis! It taught me much about music in general as well as about Middle-earth. I can't speak highly enough of Aiwendil's thought. :smokin: |
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I don't really see what's so Elvish about Irish Music and Enya. Or maybe, yes, I see why it's associated with the Elves, but to me it's sounds too "clichéish" or "ordinary" or "soapy" to be truly Elvish. (But I actually liked the Enya bit Guinevere linked. :)) Elvish music should be something less familiar to my (western) ear, in a way something not stained by the clichéishness that now stains this Enya-style music, something that sounds more "original"...
I can't really explain, but maybe you can listen to this. It's something I have found and associate with Elves thanks to my father, but I find it incredibly beautiful and definitely somehow Elvish (maybe more Wood Elvish than High Elvish, though.) I'm well aware that the song lasts around ten minutes, but it is really worth it to listen all of it, you can do something meanwhile and have it as background music or something, but listen to it! |
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However... I think there are other musical connections in Middle-Earth; the long, hard, sad journey tugs hard at us, and it is that, I think, that connects with Enya's "Exile". In that sense, and also in the sense that "Exile" is low on synth and high on celtic melody-- and I don't think in this case that the echo hurts either. Enya has a few things I enjoy trmendously, and some other things that I enjoy much less. Most of the ones I really enjoy are not dissimilar to "Exile". For me, it is not just any celtic music., but the haunting echo coming from across the hills, that tugs at Middle-Earth for me. And the tug is less from the artist than from the echo, and from the longing. Even Tchaikovsky has occasionally brought me to Middle-Earth... Swan Lake, Sleeping Beauty, and Nutcracker all have elvish moments in them. It's the longing. |
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I've listened to quite a bit of Jewish Baroque music (how's that for obscure?). A piece by the French-Jewish composer, Louis Saladin, contains a very nice melody and chorus, beginning in this video at about 03:05. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFkJu9bBiAs |
Sticking with the Celtic connection, many of Robin Williamson's songs, with the Incredible String Band and solo, have an elvish (or maybe rather 'faerish') feel for me, both the music and the lyrics - e.g. The Dancing of the Lord of Weir on his solo album Myrrh, a story of (quite un-Tolkienesque) elves in medieval Britain taking revenge on a (presumably Norman) knight or baron for kidnapping an elvish maiden.
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Elvish music is good and all, but of course, it's like fingernails on blackboard compared to Elvis music. :D
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I should perhaps put it on record that my post was a reply to a spammer post now deleated that expressed a great appreciation for "Elvis' music"...
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I just discovered a band called Corvus Corax.
This music is awesome and could fit into a number of places in Middle Earth. But one has to listen to appreciate it- any description of mine won't do them justice: Corvus Corax "Filii Neidhardi" |
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Well, at least I'm consistent... |
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