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Huinesoron 04-28-2020 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 722761)
On a tangent, is Smaug given a colour? I thought he was gold too, or is that movieverse messing with my head?

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Originally Posted by Inside Information
There he lay, a vast red-golden dragon, fast asleep; a thrumming came from his jaws and nostrils, and wisps of smoke, but his fires were
low in slumber. Beneath him, under all his limbs and his huge coiled tail, and about him on all sides stretching away across the unseen floors, lay countless piles of precious things, gold wrought and unwrought, gems and jewels, and silver red-stained in the ruddy light.

I would swear Bilbo called him "Smaug the Golden" somewhere in his praise, but apparently not. There is a possibility that he was gold, and that like his treasure Bilbo just saw him "red-stained in the ruddy light", but Occam's razor suggests he was red-gold.

... and rainbow underneath, of course!

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Originally Posted by Inside Information
The hobbit could see his underparts and his long pale belly crusted with gems and fragments of gold from his long lying on his costly bed.

At least we know Smaug took the lesson of Glaurung to heart, though how he heard about it is a mystery. Perhaps Morgoth broadcast his stalking of the Children of Hurin to all Angband, in the first reality TV show of Arda?

hS

Urwen 04-28-2020 04:58 AM

He is red. The images do not lie.


http://tolkiengateway.net/w/images/f...t_Guardian.jpg

Also, in a freaky coincidence, the site just spewed his quote.



https://i.imgur.com/W4nsIoO.png

Galadriel55 04-28-2020 01:56 PM

A simple one:


Soul of flame,
Dark my fame,
Fateful is my name.
My hair burns,
My rage churns,
As dark cloud my mood shows.

Urwen 04-28-2020 03:26 PM

Easy. It's the dude who started it all (aka Feanor aka Curufinwe)

Galadriel55 04-28-2020 03:52 PM

Thought Feanor would come up. But no! It's a different very easy answer. ;)

Urwen 04-28-2020 04:35 PM

Turin?

Galadriel55 04-28-2020 07:43 PM

That I did not expect to come up at all. No. Not even close. Look in other places for the answer. This riddle is supposed to be very straightforward, plus a tiny bit of poetic license.

Urwen 04-29-2020 02:35 AM

Well, it does describe his life, and his rage towards Morgoth and co.


But if he's not it, how about Smaug? Does Smaug's hair burn? Cos if so, he's a perfect fit.

Galadriel55 04-29-2020 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722802)
Well, it does describe his life, and his rage towards Morgoth and co.


But if he's not it, how about Smaug? Does Smaug's hair burn? Cos if so, he's a perfect fit.

Closer but still sooo far.

You're falling into the same trap with all of my riddles. Why do you assume the speaker literally speaks? It's a riddle, not a documentary. ;) And as I told you, this particular one isn't meant to be difficult - it's not referencing a million related things, it's just one description which fits one answer, in some ways less and in some ways more literally than your guesses.

Urwen 04-29-2020 07:25 AM

Because objects don't have hair? Nor do they rage.

Urwen 04-29-2020 07:27 AM

Unless it's a 'living object', but only 'living objects' are Gurthang and Troll's purse.

Huinesoron 04-29-2020 09:43 AM

So there's no mention of wings (:Merisu:) but could it be a balrog? They do literally have both burning hair and a dark cloud. And they don't speak, certain movies aside. :D

In fact, given 'fateful is my name', I'd go so far as to specifically guess DURIN'S BANE.

hS

PS: Are those two really the only talking objects? It seems like the sort of thing Tolkien would use a lot... does the Ring speak in the books, or just the movie?

Galadriel55 04-29-2020 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722814)
Unless it's a 'living object', but only 'living objects' are Gurthang and Troll's purse.

Remember how, when I made a riddle about Boromir's horn announcing great beginnings, you insisted that only people-type answers could do that? And I made you a whole list of non-humanoid things that could do the job, including animals, items, and places? ;)


It is not Durin's Bane, but Huey is correct in focusing on the fateful name. And correct in assuming the literal dark cloud.

Urwen 04-29-2020 10:12 AM

So you mentioned trees, which have hair (ie. leaves). A tree of some kind?

Urwen 04-29-2020 10:17 AM

"A dark cloud rose above both Thangorodrim and Fingon's heart."

Galadriel55 04-29-2020 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722825)
So you mentioned trees, which have hair (ie. leaves). A tree of some kind?

When did I mention trees in conjunction with this riddle? Not a tree. Nor Fingon's heart - if that is what you intended as the answer in your last post.

Urwen 04-29-2020 02:21 PM

You did mention them in your 'talking objects' list earlier, though...

Urwen 04-29-2020 02:31 PM

Maybe the Barrow-Wights?

Galadriel55 04-29-2020 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722836)
You did mention them in your 'talking objects' list earlier, though...

Yes, but that list is not exclusive and not meant to be an exhaustive checklist for solving my riddles, just an illustration of thinking outside the box. :confused:

No to Barrow Wights.

To make this easier: the answer is NOT humanoid.

TheGreatElvenWarrior 04-29-2020 06:47 PM

Is it Orodruin? :smokin:

Galadriel55 04-29-2020 06:57 PM

*Ding ding ding ding ding!*
 
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Originally Posted by TheGreatElvenWarrior (Post 722849)
Is it Orodruin? :smokin:

Correct! :D

Urwen 04-30-2020 03:04 AM

So where is its hair?

Huinesoron 04-30-2020 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722854)
So where is its hair?

I would assume the classic fountain of lava coming out of the top of an erupting volcano.

Come to think of it, Pele's hair is an actual form of lava.

hS

TheGreatElvenWarrior 04-30-2020 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Galadriel55 (Post 722850)
Correct! :D

Woohoo! Does this mean I have to come up with a riddle now? :Merisu:

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 722854)
So where is its hair?

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Originally Posted by Huinesoron (Post 722855)
I would assume the classic fountain of lava coming out of the top of an erupting volcano.

Come to think of it, Pele's hair is an actual form of lava.

hS

I just figured it was poetic imagery, but now that I know about Pele's Hair, I'll be picturing Mt. Doom with beautiful locks from now on.

Huinesoron 05-01-2020 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TheGreatElvenWarrior (Post 722936)
Woohoo! Does this mean I have to come up with a riddle now? :Merisu:

Please! And if you want it to go really smoothly, remember to include the answer when you post. :D

hS

Urwen 05-03-2020 04:52 AM

Bump?

TheGreatElvenWarrior 05-05-2020 05:30 PM

Well, I was going to ask what I have in my pocket, but we all know that's a terribly unfair (not even) riddle, so I guess I'll just have to come up with something else. I'll make this easy on me and everyone else. It turns out I'm terrible at coming up with riddles.

True companion,
loyal friend and follower,
a light in the dark,
courage beyond hope,
Faithful to the last

Urwen 05-05-2020 05:58 PM

Right, so it's either Sam or Beleg, and since not many people are familiar with Silm, my guess is Sam.

TheGreatElvenWarrior 05-06-2020 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 723479)
Right, so it's either Sam or Beleg, and since not many people are familiar with Silm, my guess is Sam.

Yes, indeed! It was Sam. <3

Your turn! :D

Urwen 05-06-2020 03:18 PM

Give me some time to make a good one.

Urwen 05-06-2020 03:27 PM

Never mind, I just thought of it.

I was brought forth
And in turn, death I brought
I spilled the wrong blood
All because of love

(Don't pay too much attention to the third line, it's a poetic description and was put there to complete the rhyme.)

Huinesoron 05-07-2020 08:27 AM

Gurthang?

Specifically, before its reforging. [Checks] Anglachel, then. It was brought forth from Doriath by Beleg out of love for Turin, but was also the direct cause of Beleg's death (it woke Turin - and indeed, by spilling his blood).

hS

Urwen 05-07-2020 08:46 AM

Nope. This one is factual, but somewhat sneaky. And I told you the third line is poetic, as in the speaker didn't technically spill blood, but...

Urwen 05-08-2020 04:02 PM

Bump?

TheGreatElvenWarrior 05-10-2020 06:58 PM

Is it Turin?

Urwen 05-10-2020 11:26 PM

No. Not a person.

Huinesoron 05-13-2020 02:31 AM

Could it be the Arkenstone? Bilbo brought it forth from the Lonely Mountain, and because of love for Thorin stole it and started the Battle of Five Armies, which led to Thorin's death.

hS

Urwen 05-13-2020 02:41 AM

Nope. Here's a hint: stick 'em with the pointy end.

Urwen 06-02-2020 03:51 PM

I like how you immediately solved my 'pointy end' password clue, but cannot draw the connection between that and this riddle...

Urwen 04-21-2021 08:04 AM

The answer was the javelin.


Someone make one, please?


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