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Huinesoron 06-21-2019 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 718584)
Rivers?

What rivers, and what's your source?

hS

Pervinca Took 06-21-2019 03:32 PM

Just the logic of them having to cross several to get to the Shire.

Anduin (Radagast said they had crossed it. At least, in the BBC version I think he did).

Baranduin?

Geography is not my strong point, whichever world I'm in.

Urwen 06-21-2019 03:34 PM

You gave up on the Password thread, Pervinca?

Pervinca Took 06-21-2019 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 718590)
You gave up on the Password thread, Pervinca?

I really have tried, but can't get any further with the clues.

Urwen 06-21-2019 04:55 PM

I'll post some hints tomorrow-ish then.

Huinesoron 06-22-2019 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 718589)
Just the logic of them having to cross several to get to the Shire.

Anduin (Radagast said they had crossed it. At least, in the BBC version I think he did).

Baranduin?

Geography is not my strong point, whichever world I'm in.

Well, it's the right answer. :) The specific reference is this:

I saw him ride over seven streams
Over waters wide and grey...


From the lament for Boromir. The internet thinks it refers to seven rivers between Minas Tirith and Rivendell, but I think it probably refers to seven actual streams close to Tharbad (after which point he lost his horse anyway). The point is, we know the Nazgul also forced the crossing at Tharbad, so they must have crossed the same seven streams.

Nine over seven. And thread over to Pervinca.

hS

Pervinca Took 06-23-2019 05:18 AM

I thought the reference was probably that song, but I wondered if it was the Lament for Gandalf. I didn't check it - sorry. I thought you wanted me to find a map and count the rivers, and I didn't have time.

Ok then.

I lie low.
Concealed.
But piquant.

Urwen 06-23-2019 05:27 AM

Nan Elmoth? :p

Pervinca Took 06-23-2019 05:44 AM

No.

Urwen 06-23-2019 06:06 AM

Moria?

Pervinca Took 06-23-2019 11:37 AM

No.

Urwen 06-23-2019 11:38 AM

:(

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 05:55 AM

Think about 'piquant.'

Urwen 06-24-2019 11:55 AM

The mushrooms?

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 12:13 PM

Not mushrooms, but getting warmer.

Urwen 06-24-2019 01:04 PM

Onions? Peppers?

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 02:47 PM

Where are peppers mentioned in the books!?

Lying low doesn't mean under the earth or in a valley or anything like that.

Urwen 06-24-2019 02:52 PM

Now I am even more confused.


The Fellowship?

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 02:54 PM

No. Not a person.

But it's *connected* to one particular character.

Urwen 06-24-2019 02:56 PM

Zirak-Zigil? It's piquant, as in peaky.

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 02:58 PM

No ... piquant refers to taste.

Urwen 06-24-2019 03:01 PM

Lembas? Some other sort of food? Stewed rabbits?

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 03:06 PM

Not one of those.

Lies low ... lies low ....

Urwen 06-24-2019 03:07 PM

Some kind of low-growing shrub?

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 04:06 PM

Not a shrub.

It's mentioned in 'Of Herbs And Stewed Rabbit,' and only there, I believe.

Urwen 06-24-2019 04:35 PM

Terebinth?

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 04:39 PM

Not something that grows.

Urwen 06-24-2019 04:44 PM

I see......You're full of suprises.

"....and hidden at the bottom of the pack in a flat wooden box a dwindling treasure, some salt....."

and that's my answer.

Pervinca Took 06-24-2019 04:46 PM

YES!

Sam's box of salt, at the bottom of his pack.

I said it was connected to a character!

Over to you. :)

Urwen 06-24-2019 05:00 PM

Then let me post something that was inspired by a poem one of my friends wrote.

Woe upon them
Children who hold the helm
Woe, woe, before the dark foe
Whose will follows them high and low

Woe upon them, woe upon him
Who dared to oppose him and his whim
Woe upon them, forlorn in their plight
They couldn't win that fight

Pervinca Took 06-25-2019 09:37 AM

The children of Hurin, at the whim of Morgoth?

Urwen 06-25-2019 11:26 AM

Yeah......

Pervinca Took 06-25-2019 01:11 PM

Perfectly round.
But never a scratch or sign of wear?
Hmmmm ....

Urwen 06-25-2019 01:43 PM

Palantir(i)?

Pervinca Took 06-25-2019 02:16 PM

No.

Urwen 06-25-2019 02:18 PM

The One Ring?

Pervinca Took 06-25-2019 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen (Post 718780)
The One Ring?

No. Frodo specifically said it never showed either of those things.

Urwen 06-25-2019 02:30 PM

The Mirror of Galadriel?

Urwen 06-25-2019 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pervinca Took (Post 718782)
No. Frodo specifically said it never showed either of those things.


But he did say exactly that about the One Ring, and I can prove it: https://books.google.rs/books?id=yl4...20wear&f=false

Pervinca Took 06-25-2019 03:06 PM

I know. I was referring to those specific words, but adding a question mark and a 'Hmmmmm' to show that they DON'T apply to THIS round thing.

Not Galadriel's Mirror. (Is it round? I didn't know).


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