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alquadae 06-13-2003 04:27 PM

Thank you Sophia.
coats of mail
Swords
spears
bows
axes
harps

Estanesse 06-13-2003 05:49 PM

Is the odd item out an axe, because it is never been used as a weapon ‘ as far as I know’ by an elf?

alquadae 06-13-2003 06:03 PM

Good guess but not quite
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[ June 13, 2003: Message edited by: alquadae ]

Corwyn Celesil 06-14-2003 12:14 AM

Harps because they are not weapons

OR

Coats of armor because they have never been carried by hand into battle (rather, worn)

alquadae 06-14-2003 06:26 AM

Don't dig so deep

Lyra Greenleaf 06-14-2003 09:45 AM

Elves never use axes?

alquadae 06-14-2003 11:27 AM

That may be true [spent a couple of hours looking for an example] but not what I am looking for. please try again [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Corwyn Celesil 06-14-2003 12:53 PM

Bows are the only ones where the actual weapon is not thrown or used by hand . . . projectiles . . .
(Axes, by the way, were used in at least one instance by Elves: in Gondolin the house of Meglin "fought with axes two-headded like mattocks.")

Finwe 06-14-2003 01:09 PM

Coats of mail because all the others have been used as weapons, or sorts of weapons by the Elves. Finrod used the harp as a weapon to enchant the Beorians (although probably not intentionally).

alquadae 06-14-2003 02:20 PM

Ok ,a hint, What I am looking for is what they are not how they are used

Finwe 06-14-2003 02:23 PM

Coats of mail because they are worn, not carried.

Corwyn Celesil 06-14-2003 04:33 PM

A bow is the only one made of wood, or not made of metal

alquadae 06-14-2003 05:27 PM

Some bows are made from dragon horn
coats of mail
swords
spears
bows
axes
harps
hint....
belt of pearls and crystal
gems
a belt crusted with scarlet stones
precious goblets

Lindolirian 06-14-2003 09:40 PM

Bows were the only ones not mentioned in Smaug's hoard.

alquadae 06-15-2003 03:46 AM

Thank you
Now i know what a dentist feels like
Your up [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Lindolirian 06-16-2003 10:25 PM

Well, you made it kinda easy there with that hint...

pot
pan
drinking vessel
beer mug

The first two are according to the movies. I'm not sure if that certain part is in the books or not.

alquadae 06-17-2003 04:24 AM

Sam did not carry a beer mug?

Lindolirian 06-17-2003 10:40 AM

Nope.

alquadae 06-24-2003 03:22 AM

Sat through PJ's "eye candy "twice, only thing I could come up with is that there were no pots in the Prancing Pony scene.
Time for a hint ?

The Saucepan Man 06-24-2003 11:24 AM

Well, I feel duty bound to try to answer a question about pots and pans. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

On the basis that Sam used either a pot or a pan as a weapon in the film (in the fight scene at Balin's tomb), I will hazard a guess that they were all used as weapons, except ... hmm ... the beer mug (didn't Turin throw a drnking vessel at Saeros?).

Lindolirian 07-01-2003 08:54 PM

That's it! I included the drinking vessel since that was Turin's weapon, and I assume that there were no beer mugs in Doriath, so that would be the difference. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

The Saucepan Man 07-02-2003 06:15 PM

Thanks, Lindol. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ale
Bacon
Bones
Books
Brass Buttons
Gold Coins
Swords

peonydeepdelver 07-02-2003 06:58 PM

Uh, bacon is yummy and eatable, and the others are not (or at least they shouldn't be...). Well, ale is technically drinkable, not edible...

Gwaihir the Windlord 07-03-2003 12:22 AM

The 'brass buttons' seem to hint at Hobbits, so I'll say bones -- Hobbits do not seem to have much interest in them. Either that or swords for the same reason (I said bones first because swords were of course used by some hobbits).

Sophia the Thunder Mistress 07-03-2003 06:33 AM

I will guess bones, because I believe, though I haven't checked, that they were one thing that Bilbo didn't wish he access to at any point on his travels.

Sophia

The Saucepan Man 07-03-2003 06:39 AM

No, no and no. [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Gwaihir the Windlord 07-04-2003 01:19 AM

Perhaps brass buttons then, because Bilbo did not win them through his adventure (he got gold ones instead, you'll remember) although I can't remember 'bones' being in the list.

[ July 04, 2003: Message edited by: Gwaihir the Windlord ]

alquadae 07-04-2003 05:19 AM

No books in Roast Mutton

Gil-Galad 07-04-2003 02:22 PM

all those itmes were found in the Trolls cave except bacon or books

The Saucepan Man 07-04-2003 05:39 PM

Alquadae and Gil-Galad, the combination of your answers produces the correct answer. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

All those items are mentioned in Roast Mutton except books. But more specifically, they were all present in the Trolls' cave except books (which is what I was looking for). Bacon was one of the items of food that the company took from the cave to bolster their flagging supplies.

Either one of you may go next. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

alquadae 07-05-2003 04:57 AM

I yield

Gil-Galad 07-05-2003 09:28 AM

okay here i go

Silmarils
Eagle talons
Taunts
spear

Gwaihir the Windlord 07-06-2003 03:22 AM

Taunts; the only thing that could not inflict actual physcial damage. Although I wouldn't personally classify it as an 'item'.

Gil-Galad 07-06-2003 10:25 AM

but they would have wrote it somewhere

Horse-Maiden of the Shire 07-06-2003 10:32 AM

Taunts and eagle talons make me think of the Silmarillion, but also the Hobbit. Argh. I'll say Silmarils, because they weren't involved in the torture of Maedhros.(I think and hope. Otherwise I've made a complete fool of myself.)

[ July 06, 2003: Message edited by: Horse-Maiden of the Shire ]

Gil-Galad 07-07-2003 11:03 AM

nope sorry

Lindolirian 07-07-2003 12:34 PM

Morgoth was never hurt by a spear. He endured all the other kinds of "harmful items".

alquadae 07-08-2003 04:12 AM

I,ll give this a whirl
Silmarils are not sharp?

Gil-Galad 07-08-2003 09:06 AM

Lindolirian is correct! please do continue

Gwaihir the Windlord 07-09-2003 01:51 AM

Very shrewd, lind.


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