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Estelyn Telcontar 06-29-2004 06:12 AM

Well, it all started when the Great White Dragon lived on the top of Snowdon. He caught the only man who dared to climb up during that time drinking from a bottle.
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That man finished in such a hurry that he left the bottle on the top, and his example has been followed by many people since. (Roverandom)

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-29-2004 06:29 AM

Right again
 
Indeed so. Such an iniquitous practice could only have begun with a dragon.

Estelyn Telcontar 06-29-2004 06:46 AM

That's what one gets from "Dragons and Elves" - he should have planted cabbages and potatoes instead! Better for the environment, at any rate...

Well, here's a new question: What did Parish see and not see in Niggle's home and garden?

HerenIstarion 06-29-2004 07:08 AM

He did see weeds, but did not the picture (that is, he saw dots and lines, but not the picture as a whole)

Estelyn Telcontar 06-29-2004 08:07 AM

Precisely, HI! Carry on...

HerenIstarion 06-29-2004 08:22 AM

Well thank you :)

In my turn, I'd like to learn Middle Kingdom's and Little Kingdom's respective headmen's appellations of dignity, honor, distinction and preeminence attached to their persons and families by virtue of rank, office, precedent, privilege, attainment and lands (and birthright, in the former case, of course)

thank you :p

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-29-2004 12:21 PM

Titular rulers
 
The Middle Kingdom at the time of Farmer Giles of Ham is ruled by Augustus Bonifacius Ambrosius Aurelianus Antoninus, called 'Pius et Magnificus' ('The Pious and Magnificent'), Dux ('military leader'), Rex ('King'), Tyrannus ('Tyrant'), and 'Basileus' ('lord') Mediterranearum Partium (of part of the middle lands).

Ægidius Ahenobarbus Julius Agricola de Hammo, first King of the Little Kingdom, is called 'Draconarius' ('of the Dragon') and Old Giles Worming. Prior to this he calls himself 'Dominus de Domito Serpente' ('Lord of the Tame Worm'), then Earl of Tame.

HerenIstarion 06-29-2004 11:58 PM

Excellent, merciful sir! You are now entitled to conduct the further proceedings of this thread

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-30-2004 05:36 AM

A mighty victory
 
In which heroic deed does Beorhtnoth's sword take part after his death?

Estelyn Telcontar 06-30-2004 06:21 AM

Torhthelm used it to kill one of the corpse-robbers who was slinking around the battlefield - very heroic indeed!

The Squatter of Amon Rûdh 06-30-2004 02:53 PM

Crazy poets
 
That he did, and that it wasn't

Estelyn Telcontar 06-30-2004 03:06 PM

Twenty-four candles - which color, and where were they placed?

HerenIstarion 07-01-2004 12:59 AM

yammie! - but chew carefully, there may be things in it...
 
Twenty four red candles adorned Twenty-Four Feast Cake :)

Estelyn Telcontar 07-01-2004 03:20 AM

And you found the star, HI! Pass it on...

HerenIstarion 07-01-2004 03:32 AM

thanks :)
 
According to Roverandom, the merdog Rover looked like a cross between these two non-mammals. Name both :)

Estelyn Telcontar 07-07-2004 10:43 PM

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...a cross between a duck and a tadpole pretending to be a dog!
Very amusing description!

HerenIstarion 07-08-2004 12:31 AM

correct :)

Estelyn Telcontar 07-08-2004 11:51 AM

Next question
 
Where was Chrysophylax housed in Ham?

Estelyn Telcontar 07-15-2004 06:16 AM

Anyone want to try this one? It's not hard to find the answer!

Estelyn Telcontar 07-18-2004 10:33 AM

The ten days are up - last chance to try to answer this one. Clue - it's found in Farmer Giles of Ham! ;) If no one answers by Monday, I'll ask a new question.

Estelyn Telcontar 08-04-2004 06:59 AM

...dredging this up one last time, since I'm too lazy/busy to look for a new one... Anyone?

HerenIstarion 08-17-2004 06:40 AM

'He was housed in the tithebarn, with the leave of the parson, and there he was guarded by the twelve likely lads.'

Estelyn Telcontar 08-26-2004 02:22 AM

Yes!! Finally! Now it's your turn to post another, HI.

HerenIstarion 09-01-2004 03:05 AM

Ok, than

Pray tell me, who is Goldlover the Divine? (or so I believe the name runs in English)

Estelyn Telcontar 09-01-2004 10:00 AM

Was that part of the Latin name of the King in Farmer Giles of Ham?

HerenIstarion 09-01-2004 10:11 AM

Nearly there, but not quite :). The 'person' whose name I'm after was also of kingly descent

Estelyn Telcontar 09-08-2004 01:36 AM

I'm sorry, HI, but I haven't been able to find anything. Another clue, please? I have no idea where to look further.

HerenIstarion 09-09-2004 08:52 AM

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I have no idea where to look further
;)

In the cave at one time, under the bridge at another, tithebarn at some occassion for a period, back to cave finally...

Estelyn Telcontar 09-09-2004 09:02 AM

That must be Chrysophylax, then, though I'm only guessing, since I "cannot read the fiery (= Latin) letters".

HerenIstarion 09-09-2004 09:13 AM

that's him (it?). Take it over :)

Estelyn Telcontar 09-09-2004 09:16 AM

Who studied "sigaldry"? (Bonus points for anyone who can tell me what on earth that is!)

HerenIstarion 09-09-2004 09:47 AM

That was 'a merry passenger, a messenger, a mariner', the acting hero of the poem Errantry.

He also studied wizardry and smithying. I supposed at a time 'sigaldry' should have meant something in between the two, i.e., practical magic, the way to enchant things made by hands. With dark connotations to the word too, not the thing Gandalf would do, per instance, but more like to Necromancer's activities, to control and possess.

My Merriam does not contain such a word, neither Lingvo 9.0 has anything of the kind in its recesses.

Michael Martinez has made a reasearch on the word. Here are the results. Highly interesting article. The quote:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Michael Martinez
A number of people who have access to books I don't have determined that Tolkien's word "sigaldry" comes from the 13th century poem "King Alisaunder", which is a fanciful retelling of the life of Alexander the Great.

Sigaldry is mentioned in the Lay of Leithian too, and there is definitely associated with Sauron:

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Master of Wolves, whose shivering howl (2070)
for ever echoed in the hills, and foul
enchantments and dark sigaldry
did weave and wield. In glamoury
that necromancer held his hosts
of phantoms and of wandering ghosts,
of misbegotten or spell-wronged
monsters that about him thronged,
working his bidding dark and vile:
the werewolves of the Wizard's Isle
That's all I could come up with. People in possession of OED may find some more, I suppose :)

Estelyn Telcontar 09-09-2004 11:07 AM

Right answer, HI, and lots of extra points for the extra information (and link) - thanks! Your turn.

HerenIstarion 09-10-2004 08:05 AM

this notable persone did not allow himself to be peeped at :)

HerenIstarion 10-05-2004 06:26 AM

clue...
 
he lived by the see, on the very beach

Estelyn Telcontar 10-05-2004 06:32 AM

Are you thinking of Psamathos Psamathides, the sand-sorcerer in Roverandom?

HerenIstarion 10-05-2004 07:03 AM

The very him :) It is all yours now

Estelyn Telcontar 10-05-2004 08:26 AM

Which two parties contracted a mutual pact of non-aggression?

HerenIstarion 10-05-2004 08:29 AM

I suppose that should have been Giles the King of Little Kingdom and mentioned Goldlover the Divine = Chrysophilax :)

Estelyn Telcontar 10-05-2004 10:10 AM

Yes, you've got it again, HI! Next one...


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